T'as des actions dans sa chaine ?
D’où ai-je dis que mes gouts devaient être ceux de tout le monde ?
Je ne critique pas le contenu de ses let's play, mais faut vraiment qu'il apprenne à parler correctement.
En comparaison, je trouve par ex que la diction de Jay's est bien plus reposante...
Je pense que c'est à partir du moment ou tu as utilisé "y'en a vraiment qui arrivent à aller au bout ?"...
C'est une "moisissure argumentative" de type "généralisation" :
Dans ton cas, sous-entendu "je n'y arrive pas, donc personne n'y arrive"...
T'aurais juste dit :
ça passait crème
Et beh, y'en a vraiment qui prennent la mouche facilement maintenant sur ces forums....
Faut redescendre hein !
Bref, j'aimais ses tests à l'écrit, mais à l'oral, ça ne passe pas...
Et si quelqu'un à d'autres let's play à proposer, je suis pas contre...L'univers à l'air intéressant mais à vous lire, on s'y ennuie rapidement...
Ha tiens, c'est pas idiot comme technique !
Edit :
Bon, en effet, c'est un peu mieux niveau rythme, mais ça ne corrige pas le tutoiement à tire-larigot...
Dernière modification par Nykhola ; 28/07/2016 à 17h27.
Moi sur Steam Je suis salement suisse-romand.
Dans leur update KS du jour, ils remercient les gens qui répondent aux commentaires en précisant que ce jeu n'est pas supposé être un "Bioshock like".
Petit souci de communication avant le lancement, dommage pour eux. Mais c'est vrai que si on devait avoir moins souvent besoin de se nourrir, ce serait mieux!
Sauf que c’est pas un souci de comm, c’est un truc qui avait toujours été clair, c'est surtout un souci de perception (ne se basant que sur la DA et le trip dystopique) que les journalistes et "influenceurs" n’arrangent pas en ne la "corrigeant" jamais dans leurs avis et présentation.
Par exemple voila le debut de la description du KS :
It’s a first-person game, set in a procedurally generated, fully 3D city that you must escape before society collapses around you. But, like any good roguelike, you’re probably going to die a few times before you figure out how it all works.
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Je parlais justement de communication envers les journalistes et les youtubeurs qui étaient dans l'erreur pour bien faire comprendre le jeu. Ils disent eux-même que ce qui a été montré à l'E3 pouvait induire en erreur.
Mais c'est vrai que le KS était clair sur le but visé.
La preview de nofrag... http://www.nofrag.com/2016/aou/01/49486/ c'est exactement le ressenti que j'ai eu sur mes moins de deux heures de jeu.
Bon j'ai vu qu'ils bossaient déjà sur le fait d'augmenter le temps des journées et de ralentir la baisse des différentes jauges car beaucoup de gens estiment que c'est bien trop rapide.
Ca c’est vraiment le souci des "survivals" récent (et encore récent... depuis le trio DayZ, Dont Starve et Minecraft quoi), on a l'impression que c’est tout ce que les gamedesigners retiennent de la notion de survie, en mettant en plus le curseur sur le court terme péremptoire alors que ce devrait être du moyen terme diffus (putain on peut passer IRL presque une semaine sans bouffer -avec une pêche de moule sous xanax certes-).
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Tu as déjà fait ? Je te souhaite bon courage avec les crampes d'estomac et autres effets (http://www.slate.fr/story/54839/jeun...re-corps-sante) Après deux repas loupés j'ai envie de tuer des pigeons pour les manger crus, pour ma part... (pas ceux des campagnes, ceux genre pied-bot, bec manquant, éplumés et s'étant chiés dessus).
Perso, je n'ai jamais fait, mais peut-être que certains ont ici essayé !
Sinon, je n'ai pas joué mais je pense aussi qu'il y a un gros problème de communication. En ayant suivi d'un oeil les news sur le jeu, je le rangeais clairement en bioshock like à la sauce survival.
"We need a man that is simple perfection ; There's nothing that's harder to find
Someone to lead us protect us and feed us ; And help us to make up our minds"
Oh mais moi c'est pareil, chui un putain d'ogre et après un jour sans bouffer (ce qui m'arrive assez souvent en fait, par flemme d'aller faire des courses... ) je pourrais avaler n'importe quoi, mais c’est pas parce que j'ai TRES faim que je meurs de faim au sens littéral.
Mais comme tu le dis, le souci est dans les news sur le jeu, pas la com du jeu, ce sont les intermédiaires qui ont fait de la merde en présentant le jeu de facon ultra superficielle.
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Mega patch (enfin):
Core Gameplay / Balance
• Needs and timescale rebalancing.
• Changed timescale to 48 (from 72): This means 30 minutes per day instead of 20.
• Changed the threshold at which the need icons appear to 50% instead of 75%.
• Hunger fully depletes in 40 minutes (instead of 32).
• Thirst fully depletes in 30 minutes (instead of 20).
• Sleep fully depletes in 45 minutes (instead of 20).
• Change sleep hours required to fully restore fatigue to 12 hours (instead of 8).
• Increased durability and damage for branch.
• Increased durability, damage, attack speed, and reach (to the point of absurdity) for pointy stick.
• Increased durability, damage and heavy attack charge time for head knocker.
• Increased durability, damage and heavy attack charge time for double knocker.
• Increased Joy duration.
• Player does not start with inventory expansion kit, jerky, healing balm and purified water if playing the game a second time.
• Searchable corpse: tweaked the lootable interaction pitch and yaw max/mins to avoid weird player view interp when searching corpse.
• Prevent double hit from throwables on the same target in the same frame.
• Caltrops last much longer.
• Basic rubber duck is now throwable.
• Electrocution by shocker grenade lasts longer.
• Cannot sit on benches during combat.
• Beds that should not have been usable are now really not usable.
• Weapons not automatically dropped on NPC death; player must loot the body.
• Only activate proximity suspicion when player is not moving.
• Player cannot greet NPCs while brandishing a weapon.
• Picking up a dropped object is not considered stealing.
• Fewer enemies can be hit through doors.
• Reduced angle of walkable slopes for NPCs.
• When set on fire, NPCs scream.
World Generation/Resources
• Added new shell house variants to the Garden District.
• Removed second instance of chemical crafting table on first Garden District island.
• Reduced repetition of shell houses in Garden District.
• Automatically stream in zone data based on player position rather than depending on threshold volumes.
• Adjusted spawning of phone booths so that they block doorways or other objects less frequently.
• Increased frequency of tough linen spawns in the Garden District.
• Reduced ludicrous bobby loot drops.
• Bug fixes for joy overdose respawn including respawn support on the two connector islands.
• Reduced the insanely overkill number of phone booths on the connector islands.
• Added warning light to player tracking televisions (night time television observers).
• Primitive food poisoning cure now requires gilead petals and cures one tier of food poisoning by causing you to purge “the bad stuff inside.” Neximide now spawns less frequently as it is a powerful food poisoning cure and too plentiful.
• Primitive food poisoning cure now unlocked from start of game.
• Darts, elite hammer pipe, shocker grenade, and other recipes now unlocked by finding all required ingredients.
• Plain darts now craftable in lots of five (much less costly to craft darts).
• Breakdown and exhaustion darts now require significantly fewer chemical components.
• Phlash recipe now yields five Phlash.
• Plague cure syringes now less costly to craft. Now craft in lots of five. Take less space in inventory.
• Cricket bats require less space in inventory.
• Pump repair patches now stackable in lots of five. Recipe unlocked by having all required ingredients.
• Rowan berries stack the same as blue currants.
• Tree collision modified to allow better “sliding around trees rather than being stopped by trees” feeling.
• “Welcome” park relocated from second to first Garden District island.
• Randomly generated lootable plants now saved properly.
• Invisible Village building now visible.
Encounters
• House of Curious Behaviors now set to spawn randomly, i.e. not always in a world generation.
• Mysterious Chest set to respawn new contents every twenty-four hours.
• Minor realization improvements and objectives changes to Thirsty Wastrels. Still a work in progress.
• Faraday now gives you items by placing them on her workbench. You must loot them to put them in your inventory. If your inventory is full, be careful not to drop any items while standing near the cage window. There is a chance that the dropped items could knock the quest item off the work table and you might not be able to reach it. We will have a more reliable method of giving you quest items in the future.
• Realization improvements to Faraday’s Workshop. Repaired broken POIs (Roger should now pole dance again).
• Realization improvements to Blood in the Streets.
• Realization and objective changes to Poisoned Wastrel.
• Biological Hazard no longer causes plague but may cause infection.
• Walkabout yields more power cells on completion.
• Added objective to Shibboleth to point players towards searching the suitcase.
• Lovebirds active only during the day. Fixed twitching/teleporting characters.
• The Broken Police Box now gives you metal bits and mechanical parts; tweaked interaction duration and added save game support.
• Mrs. Stokes encounter no longer always spawns after you have played the game previously.
• Increased damage done by bees - no more stealing honey without a padded suit.
• More difficult to murder/incapacitate Crazy Legs.
• Cannot open the same chest three times to complete TV Altar objectives. Wastrels cannot be led too far from the encounter area.
• Simplified paying the toll interaction with the honey bridge bandit.
• Tripwire alarms in the Garden District are now better balanced for risk vs reward, i.e. they tend to be less frequent in general but also generally summon angry wastrels if triggered. Also, they do not zealously guard the bathrooms, which was funny but unintentional. Sprung tripwires now deleted appropriately after save/load.
• Added shopkeeper functionality to Hermit Treehouse allowing for sale of some collected items and purchase of desired items. Among other things you can now choose to spend sovereigns on are a couple of required quest items if you do not wish to search for/cannot find those items.
• Players should not be able to get stuck in Quarantine Bridge any longer.
• Public Works now requires the player to assist the worker. Player can no longer drink motilene.
• Bobbies should tend to stick to the Tea Time encounter rather than go scouting for possible picnic locations.
• Worshippers in Altar of the Yam convulse 45 seconds; reduced from 1.5 minutes.
• Cannot kill the chef through the bars using a melee weapon.
• Bug fixes! Including but not limited to progression blocking, save/load game errors, missing/not deleting map markers and dig spots, potential/confirmed crashes and unintended weirdness to House of Curious Behaviors, Campfire, the first safehouse, Altar of the Yam, Walkabout, TV Altar, Faraday’s Workshop, Lovebirds, Cutty’s Shop, Odds & Ends Shop, Lilies of the Field, Mushroom Log, Where’s the Power, Bobby Investigation, Mrs. Stokes, Thirsty Wastrels, Doll in The Dollhouse no longer falls to the floor, annoying “why are these dumb ropes still here?” bug fixed.
AI
• Hostility of wastrels heightened when players are inside their houses.
• Bare handed wastrel attacks chance of giving infection reduced. Now at 10%.
• Bobbies have a chance of dropping items when drunk.
• Worker NPCs have greater health than normal Wellies.
• NPCs react with VO to distraction objects.
• Wellies do not accept gifts (we need to determine which gift a Wellie would like).
• Bobby charge attack now warns more clearly by their shouting.
HUD/UI
• Crafting now split into five logical categories.
• Active quest tracking
• Objective markers now drawn on top layer of map.
• Toxic waste spawners now marked on map.
• Adjustments to multiple pickups that should prevent them from falling through the ground/floor if dropped.
• Updated inventory icons for clean bandage, antiseptic, sewing kit.
• Long subtitles split properly.
• New option to change subtitle size.
Visual/Audio
• Constrained repetitive wastrel barks to trigger only when player is in proximity rather than in LOS.
• General fixes to in-game text for clarity and typos.
• Fix to fresnel glass material for telephone booths (graphical glitch fix).
• Added missing beds, chairs, stoves to houses in second Garden District island.
• Vomit decals now show up in the environment more frequently.
• Multiple new NPC skin/wardrobe variants.
• Added new NPC barks/VO.
• Tweaks/improvements to select vfx.
• Added some new weapons breaking vfx.
• Visual improvements to banger tripwire explosions.
• Disabled foliage dithering (caused black splotches on trees).
• Reduced emissive properties on some vfx so that they do not blind you at night/in the dark.
• Added new sewing kit model.
• Performance optimizations for PC (already in Xbox build).
• Retargeted animations for crier weeping.
• Tweaked hand pose for some encounter props.
• Additional encounter facial/mouth animations for dialogue.
• Created flashlight hold animations, tweaked socket on mesh.
• Updated OD animation.
• Music box distraction object animates.
• Player can no longer see outside the world in the intro sequence.
Controls
• Gamepad aim acceleration tunable.
• Separated X and Y aim sensitivities for both mouse and gamepad (symmetric by default).
• Added gamepad aim dead zone setting.
• Reduced gamepad rotation smoothing.
Tech
• Crash reporting now automatic. This change has been implemented to increase the number of crash reports we receive on PC, which should give us more data to solve issues. Modified splash screen to alert players to this use.
• Added save game compatibility warning for saves carried over from previous versions.
Je vois que ce topic est un peu tombé à l'abandon et je trouve ça dommage pour un jeu qui ne l'est pas ^^
Alors, il y a t il toujours des canards dessus ?
Le jeu peut être sympa, mais perso je m'y intéresserai vraiment quand il sera réellement terminé.
Moi sur Steam Je suis salement suisse-romand.
- - - Mise à jour - - -
http://compulsiongames.com/en/news/1...ockwork-update
Arf je me tâte depuis un moment... Là je vois qu'il est pas en promo, ça me gêne pas à la limite pour un early, bon, allez, passe encore. Le prix passe encore, je l'aurais mis.
Sauf que dans leur explications répondant notamment au fait qu'il n'était pas soldé, les devs ont précisé que le jeu sera plus cher que son prix normal actuel lors de sa sortie.
Alors je suis perplexe. Ca m'a refroidi.