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Wannamama

29/08/2013, 12h25

Suite de ce topic. (http://forum.canardpc.com/threads/56599-Infos-Prochaines-m%C3%A0j-derni%C3%A8res-r%C3%A9v%C3%A9lations-et-fausses-rumeurs/page334)

Dernières informations et prochaines mises à jour

Ce topic à pour but de rassembler les dernières infos, révélations ou rumeurs à propos des futures mises à jour.
Dans ce premier post, vous trouverez une FAQ, ainsi que les derniers messages/réponses des développeurs (principalement SerB et Storm). A noter que les développeurs prévoient entre 6 et 10 màj pour 2013 et toujours plus de contenu: nouveaux chars, maps...

I. FAQ

1) Deuxième branche de TDs allemands: annoncée pour 2013 (probablement après la 0.8.6), elle est censée contenir des "Waffenträgers" (SerB a évoqué le "Waffenträger Tiger"). Le CO US a également ajouté qu'une partie de la branche devait être revue (possible qu'elle ne démarre pas du Marder II, mais rien de confirmé).

2) Deuxième branche de meds allemands: prévue pour 2013 dans la 0.8.5, qui contiendra 7 nouveaux chars: DW (http://i.imgur.com/kBGWH.jpg), VK2001DB (http://panzerschreck.de/03pzkpfw3/17vk2001.jpg), VK3002DB v1 (http://armor.kiev.ua/Tanks/WWII/PzV/txt/v1.gif), Indienpanzer (http://i.imgur.com/RDwGA.jpg), Leopard Prototype B (http://www.panzerpower.de/bilder/leo1/entwicklung/proto_b1.jpg), Leopard 1 (http://www.panzerpower.de/bilder/leo1/entwicklung/0-serie.jpg), Aufklärungspanzer Panther (un light T7).

3) TDs et artilleries anglaises: les TDs arriveront à la 0.8.4: Universal Carrier 2-pdr (Tier II) (http://worldoftanks.eu/dcont/fb/imagesforarticles/update84/wot_screens_tanks_britain_universal_carrierqf_imag e_02.jpg), Valentine AT (Tier III), Alecto (Tier IV) (http://worldoftanks.eu/dcont/fb/imagesforarticles/update84/wot_screens_tanks_britain_alecto_image_04.jpg), AT 2 (Tier V) (http://worldoftanks.eu/dcont/fb/imagesforarticles/update84/wot_screens_tanks_britain_at_2_image_03.jpg), AT 8 (Tier VI) (http://worldoftanks.com/dcont/fb/news/84_update_media/wot_screens_tanks_britain_at_8_image_04.jpg), Churchill Gun Carrier (Tier VI) (http://worldoftanks.eu/dcont/fb/imagesforarticles/update84/wot_screens_tanks_britain_gun_carrier_churchill_im age_01.jpg), AT 7 (Tier VII) (http://worldoftanks.com/dcont/fb/news/84_update_media/wot_screens_tanks_britain_at_7_image_01.jpg), AT 15 (Tier VIII) (http://worldoftanks.com/dcont/fb/news/84_update_media/wot_screens_tanks_britain_tortoise_image_03.jpg), Tortoise (Tier IX) (http://worldoftanks.eu/dcont/fb/imagesforarticles/update84/wot_screens_tanks_britain_tortoise_image_02.jpg), FV215b (183) (Tier X) (http://worldoftanks.eu/dcont/fb/imagesforarticles/update84/wot_screens_tanks_britain_fv215b(183)_image_01.jpg ?MEDIA_PREFIX=/dcont/fb/). Les artilleries, quant à elles, arriveront plus tard.

4) Deuxième branche de meds américains: contiendrait le T95E1 (http://www.tankinfo.ru/Country/USA/2/medium/images/T95E1.png) et pourrait être ajoutée dans un futur lointain, mais rien de confirmé ni d'informations précises. Le M60 Patton est également envisagé (probablement en remplacement du M48A1).

5) Nouvelle(s) branche(s) française(s): pas vraiment une priorité, mais les développeurs ont confirmés une nouvelle branche heavy (le T10 aurait un très bon blindage frontal mais pas de barillet) et une nouvelle branche medium.

6) Artilleries T10: arriveront ASAP, les développeurs tablent sur cette été, (en fait, les actuelles T8 seront transférées en T10 et les trous seront comblés par de nouveaux véhicules). Leur arrivée doit aussi permettre de diminuer le nombre d'artilleries en partie haut tier.

7) Arbre japonais: annoncé pour 2013, il doit arriver de la même façon que l'arbre anglais: d'abord un premium puis l'arbre initial.

8) Arbre européen: il est censé contenir des chars suédois, suisses, tchécoslovaques, yougoslaves, hongrois et italiens. Possible qu'il sorte en 2013, mais de l'aveu même des développeurs, il reste de nombreux tiers à combler.

9) Autres arbres possibles: les développeurs ont mentionné un arbre polonais mais en précisant qu'ils manquaient de candidats pour les hauts tiers. SerB à également évoqué un arbre moyen-oriental (avec des chars israéliens et égyptiens principalement), mais rien d'officiel.

10) Sturmtiger: confirmé pour 2014, pas plus d'infos.

11) Garages et batailles historiques: arriveront le plus tôt possible, mais pas de date ou de patch de précisé. Plus d'infos sur les batailles historiques (http://forum.canardpc.com/threads/56599-Infos-sur-les-prochaines-mises-%C3%A0-jour?p=6190485&viewfull=1#post6190485).

12) Obus premium en crédits: les développeurs sont plutôt satisfait du résultat actuel et ne pensent pas revenir sur leur décision. De plus, les consommables premium devraient bientôt être disponibles contre des crédits.

II. Q&A des développeurs

Étant donné que les développeurs répondent quasi-quotidiennement, je ne conserverais ici que les 3 ou 4 dernières séries de réponses traduites par Silentsalker sur le forum officiel (http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/164377-developer-qa-the-russian-answers/page__st__2420).

18.3.2013
- SerB states that (SS: unlike the accuracy), the penetration value within the 25 percent from average is distributed randomly (SS: in other words, with average pen 100, you have the same chance to get 78 pen and 100 pen, the average value is not advantaged anyhow)
- Q: "Everybody knows that fire in a tank is the worst thing that can happen! For the crew and the vehicle too! But I noticed that the fire in game doesn't hurt the crew! Do you plan to finish/fix this in the future?" A: "Everybody knows that stupid questions in this topic is the worst thing that can happen! For those who answer the questions and have to wade thru sea of stupid questions too. But I noticed that most of those who ask don't read previous answers and post stupid questions! Do you plan to finish/fix this in the future?" (SS: the answer is - the fire doesnt kill crewmembers because the vehicle would become too crippled and unplayable after a fire)
- Q: "I wonder why enemies, that are 650-700m away from me are not displayed?" A: "I wonder why despite the fact I hand out bans to those who ask stupid questions doesn't the stream of them dry out? Maybe I hand out too few bans?"
- Brothers in Arms and Adrenaline Rush effects are completely sufficient according to SerB
- it's possible that the changes to the camo system will be substantial
- only one player per battle can get the Sniper medal
- ARL V39 TD has one visibility checkpoint on the top of the miniturret on the hull - if it peeks above a bush, the vehicle will get spotted
- apparently, a new shell (penetration) model is being worked on, it will be a complex thing, the "gold T5 derp" issue will be handled as a part of it
- there will be patches 0.8.5, 0.8.6, 0.8.7, 0.8.8, 0.8.9 before 0.9.0 (eg. the camo re-work is a 2014 thing)
- Storm will tell soon, how the "new model of the game" will look (SS: unsure what this means, but something big is coming)
- there will be no special game mechanics for semi-AP marine shells
- ejector graphic (cleansing of the barrel after each shot) might be implemented (SS: some modern guns have it), SerB thinks he actually implemented this already for some tank in WoT
- SerB says that the Designated Target perk works 15 degress from the barrel (SS: official description is 10 degrees)
- apparently, Brothers in Arms does influence the Designated Target perk
- MTLS-1G14 is not planned to appear on Russian (or EU) server
- 2 HE shell non-penetration hits in a row can kill off the entire crew (SS: the "no more than half a crew dead with one HE shell" rule applies only to one shell, not two shells in a row, plus a penetrating HE hit can kill off the entire crew completely)
- AMX-ELC can get to tier 5-9 battles
- SerB states there aren't any blatant spots on the Abbey maps where tanks would get stuck often
- Ram II is placed in the US tree because it uses American chassis and was co-developed by Americans, it won't be moved to the UK branch
- according to SerB, the Swedish possible heavy candidate KRV tank weighted 45 tons (SS: a player claimed it actually weighted 28 tons, my bet would be that the player confused the projected weight with the weight of the turretless prototype chassis that was actually made)
- SerB states that the incoming camouflage system change is connected with the camo having too little effect on large vehicles
- coniferous trees crowns (the large parts, near the ground) do act as bushes, when it comes to camo calculations
- according to SerB, the BT "Christie" turret is historical
- a player with hightier tanks can very rarely drop into the Province map - this happens when press accounts are present in the battle, they circumvent the regular map limitations (they can pick which map to play apparently)
- T23 won't return in forseeable future
- T-50-2 confirmed to be removed out of the game. The tank that will replace it will be transferred to tier 6, but this is not connected with the T-60/70/80 introduction (eg. won't happen in 8.5)
- AMX-30? "no comment"
- according to Yuri Pasholok, there was a plan for an artillery vehicle based on the IS-4 chassis, but no details were discovered
- additional equipment/consumable slots are not planned, not even for gold
- according to SerB, things get sometimes forgotten in the patchnotes
- Firefighting skill does not enhance the speed of the automatic (golden) fire extinguisher
- new Chinese premium vehicles in near future? "If we decided to implement, I'll tell you"
- more models for destroyed tanks are planned
- gold consumables for silver confirmed (unknown ETA)
- no extra balancing for platoons planned (SS: for example matching of tiers, so both team has platoons with same tier vehicles)
- according to SerB, the most common battle result is somewhere between 15:7 and 15:9
- Soviets won't get a special branch of vehicles constructed by N.Astrov (SS: T-30,60,70,80,SU-76M, ASU-57, ASU-85, but also the ZSU-23-4 "Shilka" and others) because there wouldn't be enough vehicles for such a branch
- the frequency of spot checks will possibly be increased, but SerB states the algorithm is quite requiring server-wise
- SerB states there won't be an option for a player to see who added him as a friend (friendship in WoT is not symmetrical, eg. a player can add you but you don't have to add him). There will however be a function that will allow you to accept private chats only from people in your friendslist
- T-60 and T-50-2 are in two different branches, the introduction of T-60/70/80 will not influence the characteristics of T-50-2
- guns with muzzle brake reduce camouflage of the vehicle more than guns without it when shooting (they will demask you more)
- you get extra XP for base capture points you accumulated even if the battle ends by destroying the enemies, you get this extra XP for capturing enemy base even if the enemies capture your base first
- IS-7 will get a buff ("let's wait for test with details")
- there won't be any "East Germany" (DDR) premium tanks for now - but if there ever are, it will most likely be T-34/85 premium (T-55 is tier 9)
- the map in the Development section scheduled for 8.5 is the Pearl River

6.4.2013
- driver's hatch on IS-7 does not count as external module, but as armor
- it was considered to reduce the scale of shell penetration decay with distance
- M551 Sheridan is "not planned for now"
- PT-76 is not planned until bigger maps allow for amphibious tanks
- the aim spread after moving the gun/turret is not influenced by gun length or gun weight or other hidden parameters, but by gunner skill
- no composite armor will be implemented
- it's not yet decided, whether parts of client physics will be switcheable off, or just the physics as whole - experiments are in progress
- XP is awarded for first enemy module destruction (eg. chaindetracking will give you XP for destroyed tracks only once)
- devs are discussing the idea that old replays could be converted to new format
- upcoming Maus buff is confirmed, but it's not know when will it happen and it will not be significant
- WoWs has the tank drawing distance removed (or rather, it's much longer), but tanks won't have it removed, the parameters of both projects are different
- 8.6 will bring the sound engine overhaul (SS: unknown what it means)
- Leopard 1 might be too high, it will be rechecked
- acceleration is a balance parameter, eg. the acceleration of Leopard 1 doesn't have to be historical
- the +/-25 percent random factor came to be thru experience, in the beginning, it was 50, it won't be reduced to 10
- Leopard 1 might get better accuracy on the move
- new sounds (of shell impact) might come until autumn, but no promises
- dynamic garage tank stats are planned for distant future
- the Leopard 1 Bundeswehr cross is an exception, there won't be post-war insignia for (for example) US and Chinese tanks
- the tank icon indicator on the top of the screen won't get (apart from classes as it is now) also tier designations, it would be too much
- a mechanism is planned for all the "collecting" archievements (medals) to display, what do you have left to do, will come around 0.8.8
- in 0.8.5, only the most obvious objects (fences, walls) were fixed in order not to reduce the speed of a tank too much when running them over (thru them), the rest will be fixed in time- there will be no compensation for the reduced XP price of the VK2801 ("when the prices of electronics drop, do you also go whining to the electronics store for a refund?")
- Russian tier 7 medium prem tank was never promised for the 0.8.5, it will come in the future
- in 0.8.5, on the debriefing screen, the tank life percentage stat has been replaced by damage done in battle
- the decision about the gun accuracy (the way it is now) has been made due to the limited scale of battles
- there will be no possibility to trade tanks between players
- immobilized tanks with one track down won't be able to move, just like it is now (SS: a player was moaning about the fact that in real life, a tank with one track destroyed could still "turn")
- SerB stated that if Wargaming did Mechwarrior Online, they would have done a lot of things differently
- HE shell splash radius does not change by +/- 25 percent, the damage however does
- the test client is made separately the way it is because if it was somehow connected to the original client, many people would use the patch on the original game and then would whine because they couldn't play the game properly
- Swamp and Komarin do not return in 0.8.5 (SS: odd, I thought this was confirmed... ah well)
- client physics won't reach this level
- devs cannot unfortunately write the equation for the ramming damage, as it is a complex physics model
- the hull turn rate is a balance parameter, Storm: do not expect battles to be like in real life

Overlord also made an article about (the removal of) Pay to win element from World of Tanks.

A few points from his answers:
- there has to be a balance between premium and regular users, either you invest time, or gold

- tier 10 arty confirmed to come in "near future" (SS: according to RU devs: 0.8.6)
- gold shells pen ceiling and armor buff possible
- no golden ammo caps
- no premium tanks for credits

8.4.2013

- second round of 8.5 test will start on 11.4.2013 apparently (changes are not available yet)
- there aren't so many city maps, because they stress the server more than "regular" maps
- Asian maps (Dragon's Ridge, Pearl River) were introduced in order to satisfy the Asian audience
- maps with rain/snowing effects won't come this year
- the problem with night maps is the implementation of dynamic lighting, dynamic lighting is planned for very distant future
- the 10 second drown time is not planned to be increased
- old render will not be optimized (improved) anymore, only the new one will
- the game will undergo a color-rebalance (SS: filters were mentioned earlier)
- currently, the skill of the drivers is not taken into account when balancing vehicles
- installing high-res skins and other addons can theoretically lower the game performance
- WG doesn't have enough data to buff/nerf British TD yet
- tank balancing is not done automatically, but manually and individually
- the fact HE explosions have little effect on the light tank vehicle movement is intentional
- exhaust vapours will not be made thicker (as they were before)
- T-80 MM spread is not yet decided apparently ("wait for the patch")
- developers are working on improving the account security (maybe including the possibility of "restoring" sold crews after the account was hacked) because there have been more cases of account stealing lately
- 3 arty per team hardcap will not come
- for now, no high-octane diesel fuel consumable is planned (for German diesel tanks)
- open-topped vehicles will not get a buff (SS: connected to the question how some open-topped vehicles were dealt with after they had the "improved ventilation" removed)
- no plans for tier 10 LT's
- SU-100Y is doing normally statistics-wise
- no (torque) difference will be implemented between the diesel and gasoline engines
- post-0.7.0, the armor system has not changed: 16 armor groups for turret, 16 for hull
- ST-I armor angles are historical
- devs have so far not thought about introducing Soviet lend-lease vehicles into the historical battles concept
- if you destroy a low HP enemy by ramming, you will get back the same damage as if the enemy had full HP
- Storm on patch 0.8.6: "Get ready. The patch will be nuclear. A lot of rebalancing. Will tell more in about a month." It will contain tier 10 arty, amongst other things.
- Poole medal was not rewarded retroactively, because it was harder to implement than for example the Lion of Sinai medal.
- tier 10 alternative German TD will be a "German nightmare and horror" and "something special".
- Q: "Will it be a nightmare and horror for its owners?" A: "For whiners - definitely" and "only for German-lovers"
- generally, the state of module unlock has no effect on that vehicle's MM spread
- second full branch of Soviet medium tanks - "distant future"
- Soviet premium T7 med is not yet modelled
- there are many Soviet archives not yet uncovered
- US premium TD will come next year
- the reason a T7 Soviet premium med will be implemented is that suitable tier 8 Soviet premium medium tank was not found
- Type 59 MM spread is considered "normal"
- AMX-13 better than T71 in anything? "It's adequate complex-of-characteristics-wise"
- tier 10 arties will make the work easier for the matchmaking mechanism
- regarding the question why T-54-2 won't be implemented as Soviet T8 premium MT: "You want another Type 59? We don't." (SS: not as a Type 59 visual copy, but as another balanced medium that would flood the random battles) and "T-54-2 is not worse in any way than Type 59"
- IS-7 maximum speed buff only presents itself when the tank goes downhill (engine power was unchanged)
- test server hardware is apparently not used between tests
- Deathmatch mode is not even in long-term plans
- the devs didn't find enough materials about Leopard prototyp B to implement it. It still exists as a built prototype tank, but photographing it is forbidden for now, might get implemented if the data are found
- second round of 0.8.5 test is planned
- apparently, one of the devs answered incorrectly before (as the RU players are also confused), so: British arty is NOT planned to come at the same time as other tier 10 arty, it will come afterwards, "British arty was never planned for 0.8.6"
- plans for 0.8.6 will be officially revealed very soon
- when an artillery HE shell lands between two close standing tanks (splash), each tank gets its own HE average shell (+/-25) damage (eg the damage is not halved)

11.4.2013

- Q: "In 8.5, the Konisch gun damage for regular and gold shells was made the same, is it realistic?" A: "As soon as you provide us with the real life data on Konisch gun damage (measured in hitpoints), we will make it realistic"
- when smoke (as cover) is introduced, the cover mechanism of various objects (haystacks, walls etc.) won't be changed (they won't be added as camoproviding objects), there are too many of them
- various tanks have various tracks hitbox models, these models do not depend on the type of the suspension (torsion bars, Christie etc.), rather than on its shape
- you do recieve credits for caused module damage
- the archievements for the XP class badges (3rd Class to Master) for arty won't be revised
- trophy (captured) tanks will not be made for now
- some branches have regular vehicle - arty transfers, it is not yet clear what will happen to those transfers when the arty is stretched to tier 10, apparently they won't disappear all
- KV-1S to SU-152 transfer won't be implemented
- the Chinese TD and arty branches are not yet prepared, let alone modelled, no details will be told now
- shell (trajectory, impact) system won't be modified, it would get too complicated
- 0.8.5 test 2 will have a few minor bugs fixed
- Ferdinand won't be separated into the Elefant and Ferdinand tanks, because those two tanks are practically identical
- T-62A was the "ugly duckling" tank, the developers didn't want to implement it, but had to because they didn't find any proper alternative.
- the escort mode was tested but the devs decided it's not working and decided to scrap it
- WG cooperation with (implementation of) Raidcall, Teamspeak or Mumble? "No comment"
- Matilda 1 and Char 2C plans? "If there are any, I will tell"
- IS-3, IS-8 and 110 won't get a frontal armor buff on the spot where lower plate and upper plate meet
- it's not yet clear whether the Chinese TD branch will containt SU-100 and SU-152 copies
- Q (by a player named Mishkas88): "Will there be any changes in German tank properties in 8.5 test 2?" A: "No. And that 88 means you were born in 1988, right?" :)
- there are many factors as to what premium tanks will be implemented and what not
- apparently, the Chinese TD's are a mess - there is enough material to make two branches of them, but the devs are still thinking how to make it all fit together
- somewhere in the next few patches there will be a sound re-work, but music re-work is unlikely
- new anti-aliasing is scheduled for middle future (not as bad as distant - usually refers to 6 months - 1 year or so)
- there will be a new WG video, possibly explaining the shell penetration trajectory inside tank
- it's possible Korean War will appear in historical battles, Vietnam War most likely won't
- in the future, the sound engine will be updated
- visibility range restriction removal - doesn't have high priority, definitely won't come in 2013-2014
- HE shell splash has the shape of a sphere, not a circle
- the weird 2nd anniversary garage (SS: more like gay-rage) won't be optional
- T-70 will be made a 2-man vehicle before the 0.8.5 goes out
- the third T-80 crewmember was historically the gunner
- the old tracer system (where you could see tracers even from undiscovered enemies) will not return
- devs have enough ideas for game optimalisation for several years of implementation
- all arties will be completely rebalanced up to the point of implementing new guns
- official WG "noobmeter" is planned for very distant future (SS: if I understood this correctly, it's somewhat unclear, since a part of the original question is missing)
- single-click crew transfer from tank to tank (premium to regular and back for example) is planned
- devs consider KV-1S balanced and alright
- Object 261 (based on IS-7 hull) maximum speed won't be increased
- you can spend only 3 battles in a row at the bottom of your team, the 4th battle the MM forces you to be on the top or in the middle of your team
- in the future, accidentally sold crews will be possible to restore, for now, it's not possible even thru tech support
- the rules for teamkill/teamdamage punishments will be changed (intentionally not said how), devs are working on it right now. Current system does take recidivism (previous bans) in account when selecting proper punishment. The changes in rules (and possibly to whole mechanism) ETA is not yet decided
- the cancelled tech tree transfers (Hummel - Pz III/IV etc.) were not included in the patchnotes because Storm forgot about them
- Storm states that it's useless to angle the Löwe, it has a weak hull for its tier - you gotta take shells with the turret
- it's possible the "average damage per battle" stat will be implemented into the player's official profile
- new "mechanics explanation" movie (SS: I believe in English the series was called Interesting mechanics or something like that?) will come relatively soon
- SerB states that the problem with implementing the T-62A was that some its stats were too good while others sucked, the tank was also considered "too new", but SerB is happy with how it turned out
- the maximum gun elevation angle in game is 45 degress, that's when the arty shell flies the longest distance. For example if the arty stands on the 30 degrees slope, that angle would be 15 degrees
- devs do not watch player-made bug movies on youtube
- for arty vehicles using 2-part shells (shell + charge separately) it was considered to allow them to use reduced charge fill so the shell would fly with more curved trajectories. The idea was however scrapped.
- there was no "1941 pattern T-44", there was only the A-44 project (SS: regarding Soviet medium tanks, players are trying to post suggestions for various alternative Soviet types)
- Object 430 will not be implemented as tier 8 Soviet vehicle (SerB: "Share the marihuana joint") (SS: Object 430 was a late 50's medium tank project, designed to improve/replace the T-54. While it was not a bad vehicle, its performance was not much better than that of T-54 and the project was scrapped. It would make a fine T10 I think).

III. Liens utiles

Le topic Q&A des développeurs (http://forum.worldoftanks.ru/index.php?/topic/655975-%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%8B-%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B7%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%82%D 1%87%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%BC-8/), pour les russophones
Le topic de Silentsalker (http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/164377-developer-qa-the-russian-answers/#top) ou son blog (http://ftr-wot.blogspot.cz/), pour la traduction anglaise des réponses du topic précédent
La section Q&A du serveur européen (http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/forum/821-players-questions/)
La section Q&A du serveur américain (http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/forum/369-questions-and-answers/)
Le blog d'Overlord (http://overlord-wot.blogspot.com/)
La section de "Challenger" (http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/forum/625-challengers-qa/) et celle de "Chieftain" (http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/forum/256-the-chieftains-hatch/), pour toutes les questions autour du jeu.

keulz

29/08/2013, 12h26

C'est Kahn qui va le tenir à jour maintenant ! :lol:

the_wamburger

29/08/2013, 12h54

Il reste à 185mm (sauf à la limite pour le masque de canon)...
Putain, on dirait Wam qui confond les couleurs !

Je confond pas les couleurs, je ne peux physiquement pas les voir. :tired:

C'est pas comme si j'étais teubé ou que je le faisais sciemment. :|

Entre ça et CMP qui a écrit "wham", je vais finir par me sentir mal-aimé par ici.

TreeShepherd

29/08/2013, 13h38

Encore un topic tout beau, tout propre ?
Ménage de fin d'été ?

bonobo

29/08/2013, 13h41

http://tof.canardpc.com/preview/ea54c75d-0906-4bdd-ad0c-5ffbccd84939.jpg (http://tof.canardpc.com/view/ea54c75d-0906-4bdd-ad0c-5ffbccd84939.jpg)

Shurin

29/08/2013, 13h42

Je confond pas les couleurs, je ne peux physiquement pas les voir. :tired:

C'est pas comme si j'étais teubé ou que je le faisais sciemment. :|

Entre ça et CMP qui a écrit "wham", je vais finir par me sentir mal-aimé par ici.
Moi je t'aime bien, même si t'es roux et méchant.

keulz

29/08/2013, 14h02

Moi je t'aime bien, même si t'es roux et méchant.

Tu vas encore faire flipper ton géniteur.

CaMarchePas

29/08/2013, 14h49

Entre ça et CMP qui a écrit "wham", je vais finir par me sentir mal-aimé par ici.

J'écris ça moi ? En quel honneur déjà j'écrirais ton pseudo ?

bonobo

29/08/2013, 14h51

Moi je t'aime bien, même si t'es roux et méchant.

http://tof.canardpc.com/preview/19ea1072-71d7-4fd4-9dad-627619a7c05b.jpg (http://tof.canardpc.com/view/19ea1072-71d7-4fd4-9dad-627619a7c05b.jpg)

keulz

29/08/2013, 15h15

http://tof.canardpc.com/preview/19ea1072-71d7-4fd4-9dad-627619a7c05b.jpg (http://tof.canardpc.com/view/19ea1072-71d7-4fd4-9dad-627619a7c05b.jpg)

:XD:

Mais pourquoi des cheveux verts ? :huh:

:ninja:

bonobo

29/08/2013, 15h42

:XD:

Mais pourquoi des cheveux verts ? :huh:

:ninja:
Je trouvais que ça allait bien avec le coeur bleu.

Noir le Lotus

29/08/2013, 15h59

Mais pourquoi des cheveux verts ? :huh:

Parce que les petits pois sont rouges !!

Nostradanus

29/08/2013, 16h17

:XD:

Mais pourquoi des cheveux verts ? :huh:

:ninja:
:haha:

the_wamburger

30/08/2013, 13h55

J'écris ça moi ? En quel honneur déjà j'écrirais ton pseudo ?

C'était peut-être Psychocouac... un gars avec un avatar pourri :ph34r:

@les autres idiots : vous m'avez mis le doute. :tired:

Djezousse

30/08/2013, 14h37

SCANDALE !!§§

Un changement surprise majeur du modèle du T54E1, comme on peut le constater sur ce gif animé avant / après :

http://ftr.wot-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/gif1.gif

Sinon :

the blue British stripe camo will return, because the historical version turned out to be too ugly. There will be both variants implemented: the new and the old one, so there are no issues with compensations
LOL.

- the rating “surprise” will be “some changes in rating logic” (SS: later on, Storm mentioned twinks in such a context that my guess (!!!) is that it will be something to make twinks/sealclubbers/pedobears (whichever term you prefer) not have a good rating, in later comment another developer does mention “Seaclubbers running away, yes. Just as planned”)

:smile:
J'ose caresser l'espoir d'une notation logique, prenant en compte tous les paramètres qu'il faut (tiers, types de chars...) qui cessera enfin de mettre sur un pied d'égalité un mec au tier moyen 8/9 et un mec au tier moyen 4/5, à WR égal ^^

Aerial

30/08/2013, 14h42

Ca lui fait comme un coeur qui bat. :)

CaMarchePas

30/08/2013, 15h53

C'était peut-être Psychocouac... un gars avec un avatar pourri :ph34r:

Bah surtout que j'ai deux anciens camarades de jeux qui s'appellent "The_Wam" et "Wam", donc je vois pas pourquoi j'aurais fait l'erreur ! Et mon avatar déchire sa mère, je le remplacerais par une radio faite moi même contenant un corps étranger, mais pour ça fait que mon patient survive, sinon c'est pas glop.

the_wamburger

30/08/2013, 16h22

Moi c'es teh_wamburger sur WoT, je vois pas pourquoi t'aurais fait l'erreur. :ph34r:

Aerial

30/08/2013, 16h24

Bah surtout que j'ai deux anciens camarades de jeux qui s'appellent "The_Wam" et "Wam", donc je vois pas pourquoi j'aurais fait l'erreur ! Et mon avatar déchire sa mère, je le remplacerais par une radio faite moi même contenant un corps étranger, mais pour ça fait que mon patient survive, sinon c'est pas glop.

http://www.quoidenews.fr/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/buzz-l-eclair-rectum-.jpg

http://www.quoidenews.fr/2013/08/25/oups-un-homme-senfonce-buzz-leclair-dans-le-rectum/

CaMarchePas

30/08/2013, 16h32

Grivr

30/08/2013, 16h43

Nostradanus

30/08/2013, 16h50

http://www.quoidenews.fr/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/buzz-l-eclair-rectum-.jpg

http://www.quoidenews.fr/2013/08/25/oups-un-homme-senfonce-buzz-leclair-dans-le-rectum/

Selon l’homme, lors d’un moment d’inattention où il a voulu s’asseoir sur son canapé, la figurine se serait introduite malencontreusement dans son anus.
Classique, mais toujours aussi drôle. :XD:

WGA ZecchirusFR

30/08/2013, 17h00

Alkeas

30/08/2013, 17h03

Salut à tous !

Merci pour ce partage rapide et efficace de l'information officielle, c'est toujours apprécié. N'hésitez pas à partager vos opinions et vos suggestions sur d'autres medias officiels comme Twitter et Facebook !

De plus, si l'ambience du jeu vous plait, jetez un coup d'oeil à World of Warplanes: http://worldofwarplanes.eu/ !

Wargaming French Ambassador - Zecchirus

Et ne pas hésiter à essayer WoT ? :ninja:

Carpette

30/08/2013, 17h03

Zecch, tu te rends compte qu'il y a déja un topic WoWP juste en dessous ?

Djezousse

30/08/2013, 17h16

Wannamama

30/08/2013, 17h16

Evilly on E-50/E-75 engines

Source: RU forums
(http://forum.worldoftanks.ru/index.php?/topic/982757-%D0%B7%D0%B0-%D0%B5-%D1%81%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B8-%D0%B4%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D 0%B8-%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B2%D0%BB%D1%8E-%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE/#top)
You will like this, guys!

Evilly (RU main community organizer):

- all the users, who had top engines on either E-75 or E-50 unlocked, will recieve 25000 free XP on their account in 8.8 (you will get this free XP even if the tank isn’t bought in the hangar, you will get free XP only for one, so even if you have both unlocked, you will get 25k, not 50k, because the engines were identical and they were unlocked once)
- ALL the engines that are unlocked, bought, installed on vehicles will be sold for the price they were purchased for when 8.8 goes live
- new top E-75/E-50 engines will be unlocked for those, who had previously the top engines unlocked
- Superpershing will be possible to sell for gold purchase price in 8.8

Djezousse

30/08/2013, 17h18

all the users, who had top engines on either E-75 or E-50 unlocked, will recieve 25000 free XP on their account in 8.8

Hé ben, sympa le cadeau...

Leucha

30/08/2013, 17h27

:bave:

Aerial

30/08/2013, 17h36

ALLELUIA !! :lol:

bonobo

30/08/2013, 17h53

Pour le coup ça à l'air bien moins contraignant que le remplacement du T-50-2 par le MT25 :

Experience gathered on the T-50-2 will be transferred to the MT-25
Experience gathered on the T-50 will be transferred to the KV-1S

fenrhir

30/08/2013, 19h33

Donc je vais avoir 25k xp sur un char élite. OK. Youpi.

Djezousse

30/08/2013, 19h35

Fen' il sait pas lire :haha:

C'est 25k converti directement en freepex. C'est pas vraiment ce qu'on pourrait apeller du vol, hein :)

fenrhir

30/08/2013, 20h01

Awé, d'ac. Bon, j'ai rien dit. Gros merci WG là !

Thyrion

30/08/2013, 22h32

Mais pourquoi ils ont pas fait pareil pour les arty ! J'ai toujours mes 60000 d'xp dans le vide, en travers de la gorge.

bonobo

30/08/2013, 23h28

Mais pourquoi ils ont pas fait pareil pour les arty ! J'ai toujours mes 60000 d'xp dans le vide, en travers de la gorge.

2400 gold ~ 10€ :ninja:

CaMarchePas

31/08/2013, 00h01

Mais pourquoi ils ont pas fait pareil pour les arty ! J'ai toujours mes 60000 d'xp dans le vide, en travers de la gorge.

T'as contacté le support ? 60K xp "en trop" car ton arty a changé de tiers, il est possible que le support te les déplace...

Thyrion

31/08/2013, 00h19

Ah je savais pas que c'était possible. Je vais tenter le coup. Merci

Djezousse

31/08/2013, 14h18

Je doute qu'il fasse du cas par cas, à mon avis c'est plutôt à l'encontre de leur politique, si ils veulent éviter que tout le monde les contacte pour récupérer des crédits sur un char neferé, déplacer des XP sur un autre char, etc...

Projet 154

05/09/2013, 09h43

- looks like the US premium TD will possibly be only low-tier. To quote The_Chieftain: “The 122-44 is at a higher tier, where there are few US options. I would not expect a high-tier US premium TD.”
- the ST-I hull rear armor has a bug, where the collision model (http://i33.fastpic.ru/big/2013/0805/c9/f1ec6cde61752224b819765b9febd8c9.jpg) doesn’t correspond to the visual one (http://i49.fastpic.ru/big/2013/0805/2a/265bda619a56b1e3128bccc5bf3a2e2a.jpg) (there’s more slope than there should be), it will be fixed
- Storm on removing the machínegun weakspot on the Tiger II armor model: “According to the words of Hilary Doyle, German machinegun gun shields provided roughly the same level of protection as the main armor. So that’s how we’re going to slowly do it” (SS: in such a case, we can expect the removal of the other German tanks’ bow MG weakspots)
- the way the 6 perks/skills display (5x + 6th perk/skill) on WoT crews won’t be changed, because “there’s not enough room”

La disparition du weakspot de la mitrailleuse de caisse sur tous les chars allemands! :bave:

Djezousse

05/09/2013, 12h14

Ouais, c'est pas du petit buff à mon avis ; virer le weakspot du tourelleau + celui de la mitrailleuse, ça laisse que le bas de caisse, et c'est facile à cacher un bas de caisse (surtout que celui du Tiger II est loin d'être dégueulasse en terme de blindage...)

---------- Post added at 12h14 ---------- Previous post was at 12h11 ----------

Sinon, entre autre choses, une nouvelle map annoncée :

http://ftr.wot-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/34gTw.jpg

Elle me plait déjà, elle me fait penser à certains maps de Sudden Strike 1 :P
Du relief, de la ville, des ponts, yabon !

Larry Coche

05/09/2013, 12h18

Map pour campeur quand même.......
Et bravo au scout qui réussira à passer un des ponts....

Mitch Grocanon

05/09/2013, 12h22

Et si vous regardez bien, il y a des petits chemins de terre menant dans l'eau, il sera possible de passer par là aussi.

Larry Coche

05/09/2013, 12h26

Et à gauche du pont je vois un mexicain sur une barge qui pour 10 cr. fais passer ton char sur l'autre berge.

Infernux

05/09/2013, 12h38

Elle me plait déjà, elle me fait penser à certains maps de Sudden Strike 1 :P
Du relief, de la ville, des ponts, yabon !

Encore quelqu'un avec de bonnes références !

Projet 154

05/09/2013, 13h00

Ouais, c'est pas du petit buff à mon avis ; virer le weakspot du tourelleau + celui de la mitrailleuse, ça laisse que le bas de caisse, et c'est facile à cacher un bas de caisse (surtout que celui du Tiger II est loin d'être dégueulasse en terme de blindage...)[COLOR="Silver"]

Le tourelleau du Tiger II, même blindé à 150mm, ça reste un point faible pour un canon à 160+mm de péné moyenne.

fenrhir

05/09/2013, 13h02

Et à gauche du pont je vois un mexicain sur une barge qui pour 10 cr. fais passer ton char sur l'autre berge.Et qui kidnappe le reste de ton platoon pour ensuite te demander 200 golds ? :trollface:

Joolmax

05/09/2013, 13h44

Map pour campeur quand même.......
Et bravo au scout qui réussira à passer un des ponts....

Abbey avec un cours d'eau. Top Original !

Djezousse

05/09/2013, 14h14

Le tourelleau du Tiger II, même blindé à 150mm, ça reste un point faible pour un canon à 160+mm de péné moyenne.

Bien moins qu'avant parce que 150mm + nouvelle inclinaison du tourelleau + weakspot moins proéminent, ça fait que pour du tier 7 par exemple, ça devient compliqué à passer, alors qu'avant il suffisait de le chopper là ou sur la mitrailleuse...

---------- Post added at 14h14 ---------- Previous post was at 14h11 ----------

Abbey avec un cours d'eau. Top Original !

Heu, pas besoin de la jouer pour se rendre compte que le gameplay de cette map n'aura, à mon humble avis, pas grand chose avec Abbaye (aka la map où tu choisis ton couloir puis tu avances)...
Après ouais, y'a de la campagne, de l'eau et de la ville... comme les 3/4 des maps quoi ;)

Wannamama

05/09/2013, 14h32

Un peu de leak parce que ça faisait longtemps:

Tier 4 – Marder 38T
http://ftr.wot-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/24.jpg
http://ftr.wot-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/11.jpg

Tier 5 TD - Panzer Sfl.IVc
http://ftr.wot-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/31.jpg
http://ftr.wot-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/32.jpg
http://ftr.wot-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/33.jpg

Tier 6 – Nashorn (with 88mm L/71)
http://ftr.wot-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/34.jpg
http://ftr.wot-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/4.jpg

Raoul Wolfoni

05/09/2013, 14h34

Dites, c'est quoi c'te histoire de map plus grande y inclus celle de la 8.8 ? C'est vrai ? Elle vont faire combien ?

Projet 154

05/09/2013, 14h34

Bien moins qu'avant parce que 150mm + nouvelle inclinaison du tourelleau + weakspot moins proéminent, ça fait que pour du tier 7 par exemple, ça devient compliqué à passer, alors qu'avant il suffisait de le chopper là ou sur la mitrailleuse...[...]

Parce qu'un T29/T32/T34/T30 en hull down, c'est pas aussi chiant peut-être?
Sachant que eux ont l'avantage de la dépression.

C'est sûr qu'au prochain patch, ça sera beaucoup moins noob-friendly.

Mais qu'est-ce que sera alors quand le Jagdtiger et le VK4502(P) Ausf B, pour ne citer que les chars les plus blindés avec avec la mitrailleuse de caisse, retrouveront ce qui fait leur force?

Wannamama

05/09/2013, 14h35

Tier 7 – Sturer Emil (has 128mm Kanone 40)
http://ftr.wot-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/7.jpg
http://ftr.wot-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/5.jpg

Tier 8 – Rheinmetall Waffenträger (15 cm Pak L/29.5)
http://ftr.wot-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/10.jpg
http://ftr.wot-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/8.jpg
http://ftr.wot-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/9.jpg

Tier 9 TD - Waffenträger auf Panzer IV (6 man crew, 150mm tier 10 gun, engine tier 5)
http://ftr.wot-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/22.jpg
http://ftr.wot-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/23.jpg
http://ftr.wot-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/21.jpg

Gtag

05/09/2013, 14h53

Du 150 en T8, sur un TD à 22mm de blindage frontal ?

Aun

05/09/2013, 14h56

Abbey avec un cours d'eau. Top Original !

Ou Komarin sans pouvoir passer par les côtés.

Joolmax

05/09/2013, 15h03

Ou Komarin sans pouvoir passer par les côtés.

Komarin ? Ca fait tellement longtemps que je ne l'ai plus eu que j'en avais oublié son existence. Je tourne sur Malinovka, Ensk, El Halluf, Prokhohkhokhohkhova, Himmelsdorf, Steppes et c'est à peu près tout... Ah si ligne Siegfried en guise de cadeau surprise.

Projet 154

05/09/2013, 15h21

Du 150 en T8, sur un TD à 22mm de blindage frontal ?

Il y a bien l'ISU-152 avec son BL-10.

Sinon need le Nashorn et le Sturer Emil. :bave:

Thonyo_again

05/09/2013, 15h31

Gtag

05/09/2013, 15h41

L'arty

Connais pas, c'est quoi ?

Thonyo_again

05/09/2013, 15h44

Connais pas, c'est quoi ?

C'est ni qui, ni quoi, ni qu'est-ce

Djezousse

05/09/2013, 16h15

C'est une ancienne classe de véhicules dans WoT, mais ils l'ont retirée du jeu suite à un rééquilibrage lors de la 8.6.

Wannamama

05/09/2013, 18h38

Tier 10 – Waffenträger E-100 (150mm L/38 with autoloader)

http://ftr.wot-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Tx1.jpg
http://ftr.wot-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Tx2.jpg
http://ftr.wot-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Tx3.jpg
http://ftr.wot-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Tx4.jpg
http://ftr.wot-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Tx5.jpg
http://ftr.wot-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Tx6.jpg

Thonyo_again

05/09/2013, 18h46

Mud mover

05/09/2013, 18h47

Par rapport aux chars déjà en jeux, là j'ai l'impression que nous atteignons les limites des modèles sorties des tiroirs. Autant la caisse parait opérationnelle avec ses trappes, crochets etc autant la niche avec le canon me donne l'impression d'un mauvais photo montage d'avant projet.

Un câble de remorquage, des maillons de chaine de rechange, des outils, les organes de visé tout ça manque pour donner de la vie.

Si non il me plait bien et avec un autoloader ça risque d'être une boucherie.

Bobby-du-desert

05/09/2013, 18h55

autant la niche avec le canon me donne l'impression d'un mauvais photo montage d'avant projet.

Une cabane, un abri de jardin construit, posé sur une boîte chenillée...

banzai

05/09/2013, 18h58

Un châssis de panzer IV en tiers 8, on n'a pas fini de rigoler avec.

Leucha

05/09/2013, 19h29

Quelle horreur :XD: En plus c'est gigantesquement énorme.

raaahan

05/09/2013, 19h39

:bave: j'adore leurs dégaines complétement improbables, je vais trop me la faire cette branche :p

fenrhir

05/09/2013, 23h19

Trop la classe. Doublement humilier l'adversaire : lui enfiler un barillet d'obus premium et le défoncer en 10 secondes, et le faire avec un croisement entre un vaisseau spatial des années 80 et un canon antichar des années :bave:

Psychocouac

07/09/2013, 13h42

Vous en avez rêvé? Ils l'ont fait:

http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/09/07/kv-1s-with-an-autoloader/#more-2867

Bring nightmares to your foes!

Ckao

07/09/2013, 13h46

Si je lis bien le schéma, tous les obus du rack sont déjà dans le magasin non? Y'aurait pas de reload time entre les salves?

Nostradanus

07/09/2013, 15h03

Si je lis bien le schéma, tous les obus du rack sont déjà dans le magasin non? Y'aurait pas de reload time entre les salves?
Ouais, mais le gun en lui-même est assez dégueulasse.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-34_tank_gun#Comparison_of_guns

Anonyme111

07/09/2013, 15h05

C'est le canon historique du KV-1S. Note que ton tableau ne donne pas la péné à l'AP classique.
Si WG veut l'implanter (et pour l'heure rien n'indique cela), il pourrait faire un bon TV premium, en remplacement du Churchill.

cotueur

08/09/2013, 00h26

Une cabane, un abri de jardin construit, posé sur une boîte chenillée...

ARL 44 stock ?

titi3

08/09/2013, 08h44

Ce qu'ils sont moches ces nouveaux chars allemands :O Par contre l'arty va bien rigoler avec ces porte-avions sur chenilles, sans parler des scouts qui seront à la fête du circle :p Le Maus a fini son règne du seul Titanic terrestre :lol:

Djezousse

08/09/2013, 11h34

Tiens, comme je ne l'ai pas lu ailleurs, je dis ça ici : la 8.8 sort chez nous ce mercredi 11.

JulLeBarge

08/09/2013, 11h39

ah mince, du coup j'aurai pas le temps de débloquer le 3001H, flûte :(
edit: tu tiens l'info d'où ?

Adimo

08/09/2013, 12h31

For the record, le blog de silentstalker. En général, il a de bonnes infos ;)

Aerial

08/09/2013, 17h42

Posted on September 8, 2013 by Silentstalker — 49 Comments ↓

First, three pieces of info from a guy who personally visits a WG event just today (source)

- KV-1S will not be nerfed, it will be split into KV-85 and KV-122 (SS: with KV-122 being probably tier 7, but this is not confirmed)
- in 8.9, some tier 4-7 arties (that were overnerfed before) will be buffed
- top tier arties will not be buffed, their stats are fine
- second CW campaign will start at the end of October, it will use tier 4-6-8-10 tanks (based on current company rules)

- WoWp: climatic zone (as in, winter vs summer maps) has no influence on airplane performance
- Q: “Why are so little credits and XP awarded for capping?” A: “Greed is bad”
- T23 will return “in an unexpected way”
- MM for tiers 6 and 8 works fine according to SerB
- Q: “Platoons have worse MM?” A:”Conspiracy!”
- multi-gun mechanism will come a bit sooner than the multiturret mechanism
- Severogorsk is doing fine in hightier battles
- the new features for premium account owners have not been scrapped, but they won’t be announced for now it seems
- SerB states that big caliber guns with muzzle brakes demask a shooting tank a lot (SS: much more than small calibers and guns without muzzle brakes)
- A player describes two approaches for creating WoT tanks and asks, which one is correct: either first SerB selects a tier and tasks the artists/historians to draw/find something for it, or first Storm has a vehicle drawn and looks for a tier to put it into. SerB confirms both approaches happen.

http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/09/08/8-9-2013/

Et un truc un peu wtf :

7.9.2013

According to the official press release of the Russian Ministry of Defense, the online game World of Tanks attracts young people to the armor branch of the army and will in the future be one of the steps of new tanker training, said Lieutenant-General Alexander Shevchenko, the head of the armored vehicles department of MoD Russia.

“I think that the players of the game will be unique candidates the more we rely on computer technology. I think it will be one of the stages of preparation of future crews for future vehicles”, Shevchenko told the “Echo Moskvy” radiostation.

http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/09/08/russian-ministry-of-defense-mentions-wot/

JulLeBarge

08/09/2013, 17h51

J'espère que l'armée russe aime le teamkill et les insultes...

Mud mover

08/09/2013, 17h52

Ils vont déchanter les mecs en arrivant dans un vraie tank!

MM pourrie, pas de mini map, pas de porte gobelet, la merde quoi.

J-D

08/09/2013, 18h26

J'espère que l'armée russe aime le teamkill et les insultes...
C'est la spécialité des officiers, avec le racket et le tabassage des recrues. :GRU:

Bobby-du-desert

08/09/2013, 18h48

will in the future be one of the steps of new tanker training

L-l-l-l-l-Lemming train puissance 10!

http://tof.canardpc.com/preview2/9f6c7baf-af97-458f-adb1-5a37b34726bc.jpg (http://tof.canardpc.com/view/9f6c7baf-af97-458f-adb1-5a37b34726bc.jpg)

Chocolouf

08/09/2013, 23h13

Keulz bientôt approché par un recruteur par l'armée russe ?

The Kusabi

08/09/2013, 23h15

Keulz bientôt approché par un recruteur par l'armée russe ?

Il joue les US lui non ?

fenrhir

09/09/2013, 10h55

Justement, le recruteur, c'est celui qui humilie les recrues en jouant les méchants et en plaçant les pièges pendant les entraînements, non ?
Non seulement il a le talent, le style, et surtout la vocation à humilier en rageant.

Bientôt un reboot de Full Metal Jacket, version tank ? :)

Wannamama

09/09/2013, 18h58

8.8 patchnotes – official tank changes

Source: http://worldoftanks.ru/ru/content/docs/release_notes/

Soviet tanks

Penetration of the shell UBR-354MА for gun 76 mm S-54 changed from 109 mm to 125 mm.
Penetration of the shell UBR-354MА for gun 76 mm S-54S changed from 109 mm to 125 mm.
Penetration of the shell UBR-365K for gun 85 mm ZiS С-53 changed from 120 mm to 126 mm.
Penetration of the shell UBR-365P for gun 85 mm ZiS С-53 changed from 161 mm to 167 mm.
Penetration of the shell UBR-365K for gun 85 mm Д-5С-85А changed from 117 mm to 119 mm.
Damage of the shell UBR-412 for gun 100 mm D-10Т, changed from 230 to 250 units.
Damage of the shell UBR-412P for gun 100 mm D-10Т, changed from 230 to 250 units.
Damage of the shell UBR-412 for gun 100 mm D-10Т obr. 1945 г., changed from 230 to 250 units.
Damage of the shell UBR-412P for gun 100 mm D-10Т obr. 1945 г., changed from 230 to 250 units.
Damage of the shell UBR-412 for gun 100 mm D-10S, changed from 230 to 250 units.
Damage of the shell UBR-412P for gun 100 mm D-10S, changed from 230 to 250 units.
Damage of the shell UBR-412 for gun 100 mm D-10S obr. 1944 г., changed from 230 to 250 units.
Damage of the shell UBR-412P for gun 100 mm D-10S obr. 1944 г., changed from 230 to 250 units.
Damage of the shell UBR-412 for gun 100 mm LB-1, changed from 230 to 250 units.
Damage of the shell UBR-412P for gun 100 mm LB-1, changed from 230 to 250 units.
Damage of the shell UBR-412 for gun 100 mm LB-1S, changed from 230 to 250 units.
Damage of the shell UBR-412P for gun 100 mm LB-1S, changed from 230 to 250 units.

IS:

Reload time for gun 100 mm D-10Т changed from 8,6 sec. to 9,3 sec.

IS-3:

Reload time for gun 100 mm D-10Т changed from 8,1 sec. to 8,8 sec.

IS-8:

Loading capacity Т-10 changed from 50 900 kg to 50 907 kg.

KV-2:

Turn rate of suspension KV-2 obr. 1940 г. changed from 18 to 16 deg/sec.
Terrain resistance of suspension KV-2 obr. 1940 г. on hard surfaces increased by 7%.
Turn rate of suspension KV-2 obr. 1941 г. changed from 20 to 18 deg/sec.
Terrain resistance of suspension KV-2 obr. 1941 г. on hard surfaces increased by 8%.
Terrain resistance of suspension KV-2 obr. 1941 г. on medium surfaces increased by 7%.
Terrain resistance of suspension KV-2 obr. 1941 г. on soft surfaces increased by 17%.
Horsepower of the engine V-5 changed from 560 to 600 hp

KV-3:

Horsepower of the engine V-5 changed from 560 to 600 hp
Reload time for gun 100 mm D-10Т changed from 8,6 sec. to 9,3 sec.

SU-100:

Reload time for gun 100 mm D-10S changed from 7,1 sec. to 7,7 sec.

SU-100M1:

Reload time for gun 100 mm D-10S obr. 1944 г. changed from 6,7 sec. to 7,3 sec.
Reload time for gun 100 mm LB-1S changed from 6,3 sec. to 6,9 sec.

SU-101:

Reload time for gun 100 mm D-10S obr. 1944 г. changed from 5,7 sec. to 6,2 sec.

SU-122-54:

Loading capacity SU-122-54M1 changed from 37 150 kg to 37 250 kg.
Loading capacity SU-122-54M2 changed from 39 200 kg to 39 300 kg.
Hull weight changed from 24 780 kg to 24 870 kg.

SU-76:

Elevation angle for gun 57 mm ZiS-2 changed from 20 to 15 deg..
Depression angle for gun 57 mm ZiS-2 changed from 8 to 5 deg..
Elevation angle for gun 57 mm ZiS-8С changed from 20 to 15 deg..
Depression angle for gun 57 mm ZiS-8С changed from 8 to 5 deg..
Elevation angle for gun 76 mm ZiS-3 changed from 20 to 15 deg..
Depression angle for gun 76 mm ZiS-3 changed from 8 to 5 deg..

Т-150:

Horsepower of the engine V-5 changed from 560 to 600 hp

Т-44:

Reload time for gun 100 mm D-10Т changed from 8,3 sec. to 9,1 sec.
Reload time for gun 100 mm LB-1 changed from 7,9 sec. to 8,6 sec.

Т-54:

For turret Т-54 obr. 1946 г.:
Reload time for gun 100 mm D-10Т obr. 1945 г. changed from 8,1 sec. to 8,8 sec.
Reload time for gun 100 mm LB-1 changed from 7,2 sec. to 7,8 sec.
For turret Т-54 obr. 1949 г.:
Reload time for gun 100 mm D-10Т obr. 1945 г. changed from 7,8 sec. to 8,5 sec.
Reload time for gun 100 mm LB-1 changed from 6,9 sec. to 7,5 sec.

German tanks

The price of gun 5 cm KwK 39 L/60 changed from 9970 to 13 970 credits.

Aufklärungspanzer Panther:

Reload time for gun 7,5 cm KwK 41 L/58 Konisch changed from 5 sec. to 4 sec.
Damage of the shell Pzgr. 41 HK for gun 7,5 cm KwK 41 L/58 Konisch, changed from 165 to 135 units.
Damage of the shell Pzgr. 41 StK for gun 7,5 cm KwK 41 L/58 Konisch, changed from 165 to 135 units.

E-100:

Elevation angle for gun 12,8 cm KwK 44 L/55 changed from 24 to 20 deg..
Depression angle for gun 12,8 cm KwK 44 L/55 changed from 8 to 7 deg..
Elevation angle for gun 15 cm KwK 44 L/38 changed from 23 to 20 deg..

E-50:

Loading capacity E-50 changed from 64 000 kg to 60 000 kg.
Turn rate of suspension E-50 changed from 24 to 30 deg/sec.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension E-50 reduced by 20%.
Terrain resistance of suspension E-50-Ketten Ausf. A on hard surfaces reduced by 31%.
Terrain resistance of suspension E-50-Ketten Ausf. A on medium surfaces reduced by 27%.
Terrain resistance of suspension E-50-Ketten Ausf. A on soft surfaces reduced by 21%.
Loading capacity E-50-Ketten Ausf. C changed from 67 000 kg to 66 000 kg.
Turn rate of suspension E-50-Ketten Ausf. C changed from 26 to 32 deg/sec.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension E-50-Ketten Ausf. C reduced by 22%.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension E-50-Ketten Ausf. C reduced by 22%.
Terrain resistance of suspension E-50-Ketten Ausf. C on hard surfaces reduced by 27%
Terrain resistance of suspension E-50-Ketten Ausf. C on medium surfaces reduced by 23%.
Terrain resistance of suspension E-50-Ketten Ausf. C on soft surfaces reduced by 9%.
Added engine Maybach HL 230 TRM P30.
Added engine Maybach HL 234 TRM P30.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 230 P45.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 234.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 295 Ausf. A.
Hull weight changed from 37 000 kg to 32 450 kg.
Added the radio FuG 5.
Lower frontal plate thickness changed from 120 to 100 mm.
Upper frontal plate thickness changed from 120 to 150 mm.

For turret E-50 Ausf. A:

Aim time for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 2,3 sec. to 2,1 sec.
Elevation angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 17 to 20 deg..
Depression angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Reload time for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 4,5 sec. to 3,8 sec.
Aim circle spread for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 After shooting reduced by 12%.
Aim circle spread for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 after moving the turret reduced by 33%.
Aim time for gun 7,5 cm KwK 45 L/100 changed from 2,3 sec. to 2,1 sec.
Elevation angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 45 L/100 changed from 17 to 20 deg..
Depression angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 45 L/100 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Reload time for gun 7,5 cm KwK 45 L/100 changed from 4,5 sec. to 4,2 sec.
Aim circle spread for gun 7,5 cm KwK 45 L/100 After shooting reduced by 12%.
Aim circle spread for gun 7,5 cm KwK 45 L/100 after moving the turret reduced by 17%.
Aim circle spread for gun 7,5 cm KwK 45 L/100 changed from 0,3 m to 0,32 m.
Aim time for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 changed from 2,9 sec. to 2,7 sec.
Elevation angle for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 changed from 17 to 20 deg..
Depression angle for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Reload time for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 changed from 7,5 sec. to 7,3 sec.
Aim circle spread for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 After shooting reduced by 12%.
Aim circle spread for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 after moving the turret reduced by 17%.
Elevation angle for gun 8,8 cm KwK 46 L/100 changed from 17 to 20 deg..
Depression angle for gun 8,8 cm KwK 46 L/100 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Turret traverse rate E 50 Ausf. A changed from 32 to 30 deg/sec.
Turret weight changed from 11 820 kg to 8438 kg.

For turret E-50 Ausf. F:

Aim time for gun 10,5 cm KwK 45 L/52 Ausf. B changed from 2,3 sec. to 2,1 sec.
Elevation angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 45 L/52 Ausf. B changed from 17 to 20 deg.
Depression angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 45 L/52 Ausf. B changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Reload time for gun 10,5 cm KwK 45 L/52 Ausf. B changed from 10 sec. to 9,6 sec.
Aim circle spread for gun 10,5 cm KwK 45 L/52 Ausf. B After shooting increased by 17%.
Aim circle spread for gun 10,5 cm KwK 45 L/52 Ausf. B after moving the turret reduced by 20%.
Aim circle spread for gun 10,5 cm KwK 45 L/52 Ausf. B changed from 0,32 m to 0,3 m.
Aim time for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 2,3 sec. To 2,1 sec.
Elevation angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 17 to 20 deg..
Depression angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Reload time for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 4,5 sec. to 3,5 sec.
Aim circle spread for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 After shooting reduced by 12%.
Aim circle spread for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 after moving the turret reduced by 20%.
Aim time for gun 7,5 cm KwK 45 L/100 changed from 2,3 sec. to 2,1 sec.
Elevation angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 45 L/100 changed from 17 to 20 deg..
Depression angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 45 L/100 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Reload time for gun 7,5 cm KwK 45 L/100 changed from 4,5 sec. to 3,8 sec.
Aim circle spread for gun 7,5 cm KwK 45 L/100 After shooting reduced by 12%.
Aim circle spread for gun 7,5 cm KwK 45 L/100 changed from 0,3 m to 0,32 m.
Aim time for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 changed from 2,9 sec. to 2,7 sec.
Elevation angle for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 changed from 17 to 20 deg..
Depression angle for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Reload time for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 changed from 7,3 sec. to 7 sec.
Aim circle spread for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 After shooting reduced by 12%.
Elevation angle for gun 8,8 cm KwK 46 L/100 changed from 17 to 20 deg..
Depression angle for gun 8,8 cm KwK 46 L/100 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Aim circle spread for gun 8,8 cm KwK 46 L/100 after moving the turret increased by 20%.
Turret weight changed from 14 100 kg to 10 500 kg.

E-50 Ausf. M:

Elevation angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 45 L/52 Ausf. K changed from 17 to 20 deg..
Depression angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 45 L/52 Ausf. K changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Lower frontal plate thickness changed from 120 to 100 mm.
Upper frontal plate thickness changed from 120 to 150 mm.

E-75:

Loading capacity MAN-Ketten Ausf. A changed from 87 500 kg to 88 000 kg.
Turn rate of suspension MAN-Ketten Ausf. A changed from 18 to 28 deg/sec.
Terrain resistance of suspension MAN-Ketten Ausf. A on hard surfaces reduced by 8%.
Terrain resistance of suspension MAN-Ketten Ausf. A on medium surfaces reduced by 38%.
Terrain resistance of suspension MAN-Ketten Ausf. A on soft surfaces reduced by 29%.
Loading capacity MAN-Ketten Ausf. B changed from 94 500 kg to 96 000 kg.
Turn rate of suspension MAN-Ketten Ausf. B changed from 21 to 30 deg/sec.
Terrain resistance of suspension MAN-Ketten Ausf. B on hard surfaces reduced by 15%.
Terrain resistance of suspension MAN-Ketten Ausf. B on medium surfaces reduced by 29%.
Terrain resistance of suspension MAN-Ketten Ausf. B on soft surfaces reduced by 19%.
Added engine Maybach HL 230 TRM P45.
Added engine Maybach HL 234 TRM P45.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 210 P30.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 230 P45.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 234.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 295 Ausf. A.
Hull weight changed from 53 300 kg to 47 500 kg.
Added the radio FuG 5.
Forward maximum speed changed from 30 km/h to 40 km/h.
View range of turret E 75 Ausf. A changed from 400 m to 390 m.

For turret E-75 Ausf. A:

Elevation angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 45 L/52 changed from 17 to 15 deg..
Depression angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 45 L/52 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Elevation angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 46 L/68 changed from 17 to 15 deg..
Elevation angle for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 changed from 18 to 15 deg..
Depression angle for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 changed from 5 to 8 deg..
Turret traverse rate E 75 Ausf. A changed from 25 to 24 deg/sec.
Turret weight changed from 13 520 kg to 10 938 kg.

For turret E-75 Ausf. F:

Elevation angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 45 L/52 changed from 18 to 15 deg..
Depression angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 45 L/52 changed from 5 to 8 deg..
Elevation angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 46 L/68 changed from 17 to 15 deg.
Elevation angle for gun 12,8 cm KwK 44 L/55 changed from 24 to 15 deg..
Elevation angle for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 changed from 18 to 15 deg..
Depression angle for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 changed from 5 to 8 deg..
Turret weight changed from 18 520 kg to 16 520 kg.

Jagdpanther:

Loading capacity JgPz-V-Ketten Ausf. A changed from 47 500 kg to 45 500 kg.
Turn rate of suspension JgPz-V-Ketten Ausf. A changed from 26 to 30 deg/sec.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension JgPz-V-Ketten Ausf. A increased by 5%.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension JgPz-V-Ketten Ausf. A increased by 5%.
Terrain resistance of suspension JgPz-V-Ketten Ausf. A on hard surfaces reduced by 8%.
Terrain resistance of suspension JgPz-V-Ketten Ausf. A on medium surfaces reduced by 18%.
Terrain resistance of suspension JgPz-V-Ketten Ausf. A on soft surfaces reduced by 10%.
Loading capacity JgPz-V-Ketten Ausf. B changed from 48 950 kg to 49 000 kg.
Turn rate of suspension JgPz-V-Ketten Ausf. B changed from 29 to 32 deg/sec.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension JgPz-V-Ketten Ausf. B increased by 5%.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension JgPz-V-Ketten Ausf. B increased by 5%.
Terrain resistance of suspension JgPz-V-Ketten Ausf. B on medium surfaces reduced by 13%.
Terrain resistance of suspension JgPz-V-Ketten Ausf. B on soft surfaces increased by 4%.
Added engine Maybach HL 210 TRM P30.
Added engine Maybach HL 230 TRM P30.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 174.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 210 P30.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 230 P45.
Hull weight changed from 26 500 kg to 26 313 kg.
Added the radio FuG 5.
Forward maximum speed changed from 46 km/h to 55 km/h.
View range changed from 350 m to 370 m.

Jagdpanther II:

Loading capacity Panther-II-Ketten Ausf. F changed from 53 400 kg to 53 000 kg.
Turn rate of suspension Panther-II-Ketten Ausf. F changed from 28 to 34 deg/sec.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension Panther-II-Ketten Ausf. F increased by 5%.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension Panther-II-Ketten Ausf. F increased by 5%.
Terrain resistance of suspension Panther-II-Ketten Ausf. F on hard surfaces reduced by 25%.
Terrain resistance of suspension Panther-II-Ketten Ausf. F on medium surfaces reduced by 31%.
Terrain resistance of suspension Panther-II-Ketten Ausf. F on soft surfaces reduced by 8%.
Loading capacity Panther-II-Ketten Ausf. G changed from 59 400 kg to 56 000 kg.
Turn rate of suspension Panther-II-Ketten Ausf. G changed from 30 to 38 deg/sec.
Terrain resistance of suspension Panther-II-Ketten Ausf. G on hard surfaces reduced by 27%.
Terrain resistance of suspension Panther-II-Ketten Ausf. G on medium surfaces reduced by 23%.
Terrain resistance of suspension Panther-II-Ketten Ausf. G on soft surfaces reduced by 9%.
Added engine Maybach HL 210 TRM P30.
Added engine Maybach HL 230 TRM P30.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 174.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 210 P30.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 230 P45.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 234.
Hull weight changed from 36 200 kg to 31 395 kg.
Added the radio FuG 5.
Forward maximum speed changed from 45 to 55 km/h.
Depression angle for gun 10,5 cm PaK 45 L/52 changed from 6 to 6,5 deg..
Depression angle for gun 12,8 cm PaK 44 L/55 changed from 6 to 6,5 deg..
Depression angle for gun 8,8 cm PaK 43 L/71 changed from 6 to 6,5 deg..

Jagdtiger:

Loading capacity Jagdtiger-Standardketten changed from 73 100 kg to 75 000 kg.
Turn rate of suspension Jagdtiger-Standardketten changed from 18 to 24 deg/sec.
Terrain resistance of suspension Jagdtiger-Standardketten on hard surfaces reduced by 8%.
Terrain resistance of suspension Jagdtiger-Standardketten on medium surfaces reduced by 18%.
Terrain resistance of suspension Jagdtiger-Standardketten on soft surfaces reduced by 24%.
Loading capacity Jagdtiger verstärkte Ketten changed from 75 500 kg to 79 000 kg.
Turn rate of suspension Jagdtiger verstärkte Ketten changed from 21 to 26 deg/sec.
Terrain resistance of suspension Jagdtiger verstärkte Ketten on medium surfaces reduced by 19%
Terrain resistance of suspension Jagdtiger verstärkte Ketten on soft surfaces reduced by 4%.
Added engine Maybach HL 210 TRM P30.
Added engine Maybach HL 230 TRM P30.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 210 P30.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 230 P45.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 234.
Hull weight changed from 47 500 kg to 47 420 kg.
Added the radio FuG 5.
Forward maximum speed changed from 28 km/h to 38 km/h.
Elevation angle for gun 12,8 cm PaK 44/2 L/61 changed from 14 to 15 deg..
Depression angle for gun 12,8 cm PaK 44/2 L/61 changed from 8 to 7,5 deg..
Elevation angle for gun 12,8 cm PaK 44 L/55 changed from 14 to 15 deg..
Depression angle for gun 12,8 cm PaK 44 L/55 changed from 8 to 7,5 deg..
Lower frontal plate thickness reduced from 120 to 100 mm.

Panther II:

Loading capacity Panther-II-Ketten Ausf. A changed from 48 400 kg to 53 000 kg.
Turn rate of suspension Panther-II-Ketten Ausf. A changed from 26 to 32 deg/sec.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension Panther-II-Ketten Ausf. A reduced by 10%.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension Panther-II-Ketten Ausf. A reduced by 10%.
Terrain resistance of suspension Panther-II-Ketten Ausf. A on hard surfaces reduced by 18%.
Terrain resistance of suspension Panther-II-Ketten Ausf. A on medium surfaces reduced by 31%.
Terrain resistance of suspension Panther-II-Ketten Ausf. A on soft surfaces reduced by 21%.
Loading capacity Panther-II-Ketten Ausf. B changed from 51 400 kg to 56 000 kg.
Turn rate of suspension Panther-II-Ketten Ausf. B changed from 29 to 36 deg/sec.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension Panther-II-Ketten Ausf. B reduced by 6%.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension Panther-II-Ketten Ausf. B reduced by 6%.
Terrain resistance of suspension Panther-II-Ketten Ausf. B on hard surfaces reduced by 27%.
Terrain resistance of suspension Panther-II-Ketten Ausf. B on medium surfaces reduced by 23%.
Terrain resistance of suspension Panther-II-Ketten Ausf. B on soft surfaces reduced by 9%.
Added engine Maybach HL 210 TRM P30.
Added engine Maybach HL 230 TRM P30.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 174.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 210 P30.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 230 P45.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 234.
Hull weight changed from 20 200 kg to 25 490 kg.
Added the radio FuG 5.

For turret Turm-Panther:

Elevation angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28 changed from 17 to 20 deg..
Depression angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Aim circle spread for gun 10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28 After shooting reduced by 12%.
Elevation angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 17 to 20 deg..
Depression angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Reload time for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 4,6 sec. to 4 sec.
Aim circle spread for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 After shooting reduced by 12%.
Aim circle spread for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 after moving the turret reduced by 14%.
Elevation angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 45 L/100 changed from 17 to 20 deg..
Depression angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 45 L/100 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Reload time for gun 7,5 cm KwK 45 L/100 changed from 4,6 sec. to 4,4 sec.
Aim circle spread for gun 7,5 cm KwK 45 L/100 After shooting reduced by 12%.
Turret traverse rate Turm-Panther changed from 42 deg/сеK to 30 deg/sec.
Turret weight changed from 9600 kg to 7500 kg.

For turret Panther II Schmalturm:

Aim time for gun 10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28 changed from 2,3 sec. to 2,1 sec.
Elevation angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28 changed from 17 to 20 deg..
Depression angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Reload time for gun 10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28 changed from 8 sec. to 7,6 sec.
Aim circle spread for gun 10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28 After shooting reduced by 12%.
Aim circle spread for gun 10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28 after moving the turret reduced by 17%.
Aim time for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 2,3 sec. to 2,1 sec.
Elevation angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 17 to 20 deg..
Depression angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Reload time for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 4,6 sec. to 3,8 sec.
Aim circle spread for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 After shooting reduced by 12%.
Aim circle spread for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 after moving the turret reduced by 33%.
Aim time for gun 7,5 cm KwK 45 L/100 changed from 2,3 sec. to 2,1 sec.
Elevation angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 45 L/100 changed from 17 to 20 deg..
Depression angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 45 L/100 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Reload time for gun 7,5 cm KwK 45 L/100 changed from 4,8 sec. to 4,2 sec.
Aim circle spread for gun 7,5 cm KwK 45 L/100 After shooting reduced by 12%.
Aim circle spread for gun 7,5 cm KwK 45 L/100 after moving the turret reduced by 17%.
Aim time for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 changed from 2,9 sec. to 2,7 sec.
Elevation angle for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 changed from 17 to 20 deg..
Depression angle for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Reload time for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 changed from 7,7 sec. to 7,3 sec.
Aim circle spread for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 After shooting reduced by 12%.
Aim circle spread for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 after moving the turret reduced by 29%.
Removed the gun 8,8 cm KwK 36 L/56.
Turret traverse rate Panther II Schmalturm changed from 28 to 30 deg/sec.
Turret weight changed from 12 500 kg to 7745 kg.
Hitpoints of the turret Turm-Panther (schmale Blende) changed from 1350 to 1400 units.
Hitpoints of the turret Panther II Schmalturm changed from 1450 to 1500 units.

Panzerjager I:

Added the gun 4,7 cm Pak. 36 (t) L/43.
Removed the gun 4,7 cm PaK 38 (t) L/43.

Pz.Kpfw. Panther:

Turn rate of suspension Pz.Kpfw. Panther Ausf. A changed from 25 to 30 deg/sec.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension Pz.Kpfw. Panther Ausf. A reduced by 5%.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension Pz.Kpfw. Panther Ausf. A reduced by 5%.
Terrain resistance of suspension Pz.Kpfw. Panther Ausf. A on hard surfaces reduced by 15%.
Terrain resistance of suspension Pz.Kpfw. Panther Ausf. A on medium surfaces reduced by 28%.
Terrain resistance of suspension Pz.Kpfw. Panther Ausf. A on soft surfaces reduced by 17%.
Loading capacity Pz.Kpfw. Panther Ausf. G changed from 49 300 kg to 48 000 kg.
Turn rate of suspension Pz.Kpfw. Panther Ausf. G changed from 28 to 32 deg/sec.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension Pz.Kpfw. Panther Ausf. G reduced by 5%.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension Pz.Kpfw. Panther Ausf. G reduced by 5%.
Terrain resistance of suspension Pz.Kpfw. Panther Ausf. G on hard surfaces reduced by 9%.
Terrain resistance of suspension Pz.Kpfw. Panther Ausf. G on medium surfaces reduced by 14%.
Terrain resistance of suspension Pz.Kpfw. Panther Ausf. G on soft surfaces reduced by 4%.
Added engine Maybach HL 210 TRM P30.
Added engine Maybach HL 230 TRM P30.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 174.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 210 P30.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 230 P45.
Hull weight changed from 20 500 kg to 18 775 kg.
Added the radio FuG 5.
Forward maximum speed changed from 48 km/h to 55 km/h.

For turret Pz.Kpfw. Panther Schmalturm:

Elevation angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28 changed from 17 to 20 deg..
Depression angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Aim circle spread for gun 10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28 After shooting reduced by 12%.
Aim circle spread for gun 10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28 after moving the turret increased by 14%.
Elevation angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 17 to 20 deg..
Depression angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Reload time for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 4,6 sec. to 4 sec.
Aim circle spread for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 After shooting reduced by 12%.
Aim circle spread for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 after moving the turret reduced by 14%.
Elevation angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 45 L/100 changed from 17 to 20 deg..
Depression angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 45 L/100 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Reload time for gun 7,5 cm KwK 45 L/100 changed from 4,8 sec. to 4,4 sec.
Removed the gun 8,8 cm KwK 36 L/56.
Turret traverse rate Pz.Kpfw. Panther Schmalturm changed from 26 to 30 deg/сеK
Turret weight changed from 10 800 kg to 7745 kg.
Hitpoints of the turret Pz.Kpfw. Panther Schmalturm changed from 1270 to 1300 units.

For turret Pz.Kpfw. Panther Ausf. G:

View range of turret Pz.Kpfw. Panther Ausf. G changed from 350 m to 370 m.
Elevation angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28 changed from 17 to 18 deg..
Depression angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Elevation angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 17 to 18 deg..
Depression angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Reload time for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 5,1 sec. to 4,2 sec.
Aim circle spread for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 after moving the turret reduced by 12%.
Added the gun 7,5 cm KwK 45 L/100.
Turret traverse rate Pz.Kpfw. Panther Ausf. G changed from 41 to 30 deg/sec.
Turret weight changed from 9600 kg to 7760 kg.

Pz.Kpfw. VI Tiger:

Loading capacity Pz.Kpfw. VI H Ausf. H1 changed from 58 900 kg to 57 000 kg.
Turn rate of suspension Pz.Kpfw. VI H Ausf. H1 changed from 22 to 24 deg/sec.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension Pz.Kpfw. VI H Ausf. H1 increased by 5%.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension Pz.Kpfw. VI H Ausf. H1 increased by 5%.
Terrain resistance of suspension Pz.Kpfw. VI H Ausf. H1 on hard surfaces increased by 18%.
Terrain resistance of suspension Pz.Kpfw. VI H Ausf. H1 on medium surfaces reduced by 12%.
Terrain resistance of suspension Pz.Kpfw. VI H Ausf. H1 on soft surfaces reduced by 9%.
Loading capacity Pz.Kpfw. Tiger Ausf. E changed from 59 200 kg to 61 000 kg.
Turn rate of suspension Pz.Kpfw. Tiger Ausf. E changed from 24 to 26 deg/sec.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension Pz.Kpfw. Tiger Ausf. E increased by 5%.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension Pz.Kpfw. Tiger Ausf. E increased by 5%.
Terrain resistance of suspension Pz.Kpfw. Tiger Ausf. E on hard surfaces increased by 9%.
Terrain resistance of suspension Pz.Kpfw. Tiger Ausf. E on soft surfaces increased by 7%.
Added engine Maybach HL 210 TRM P45.
Added engine Maybach HL 230 TRM P45.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 174.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 210 P30.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 230 P45.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 234.
Hull weight changed from 26 000 kg to 25 350 kg.
Added the radio FuG 5.
Maximum reverse speed changed from 10 km/h to 12 km/h.
Forward maximum speed changed from 30 km/h to 40 km/h.

For turret Pz.Kpfw. VI H Ausf. H2:

View range of turret Pz.Kpfw. VI H Ausf. H2 changed from 350 m to 370 m.
Elevation angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28 changed from 17 to 15 deg..
Depression angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Aim circle spread for gun 10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28 after moving the turret reduced by 14%.
Elevation angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 17 to 15 deg..
Depression angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Reload time for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 4,6 sec. to 4 sec.
Aim circle spread for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 after moving the turret reduced by 14%.
Elevation angle for gun 8,8 cm KwK 36 L/56 changed from 17 to 15 deg..
Depression angle for gun 8,8 cm KwK 36 L/56 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Reload time for gun 8,8 cm KwK 36 L/56 changed from 7,4 sec. to 6,3 sec.
Aim circle spread for gun 8,8 cm KwK 36 L/56 after moving the turret reduced by 14%.
Turret traverse rate Pz.Kpfw. VI H Ausf. H2 changed from 23 to 24 deg/sec.
Turret weight changed from 8200 kg to 8250 kg.

For turret Pz.Kpfw. Tiger Ausf. E:

View range of turret Pz.Kpfw. Tiger Ausf. E changed from 370 m to 380 m.
Elevation angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28 changed from 17 to 15 deg..
Depression angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Aim circle spread for gun 10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28 after moving the turret reduced by 17%.
Elevation angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 17 to 15 deg..
Depression angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Reload time for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 4,6 sec. to 4 sec.
Aim circle spread for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 after moving the turret reduced by 17%.
Elevation angle for gun 8,8 cm KwK 36 L/56 changed from 17 to 15 deg..
Depression angle for gun 8,8 cm KwK 36 L/56 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Reload time for gun 8,8 cm KwK 36 L/56 changed from 6,6 sec. to 5,5 sec.
Aim circle spread for gun 8,8 cm KwK 36 L/56 after moving the turret reduced by 17%.
Aim time for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 changed from 2,9 sec. to 2,7 sec.
Elevation angle for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 changed from 17 to 13 deg..
Depression angle for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 changed from 6 to 7 deg..
Reload time for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 changed from 8,6 sec. to 6,7 sec.
Turret traverse rate Pz.Kpfw. Tiger Ausf. E changed from 23 to 18 deg/sec.
Turret weight changed from 9000 kg to 8950 kg.
Hitpoints of the turret Pz.Kpfw. VI H Ausf. H2 changed from 1350 to 1400 units.
Hitpoints of the turret Pz.Kpfw. Tiger Ausf. E changed from 1450 to 1500 units.

Pz.Kpfw. VI Tiger (P):

View range of turret Tiger (P) Neuer Turm changed from 370 m to 380 m.

Tiger II:

Loading capacity Tiger II Vesuchs-Serie changed from 68 500 kg to 69 700 kg.
Turn rate of suspension Tiger II Vesuchs-Serie changed from 23 to 26 deg/sec.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension Tiger II Vesuchs-Serie reduced by 5%.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension Tiger II Vesuchs-Serie reduced by 5%.
Terrain resistance of suspension Tiger II Vesuchs-Serie on medium surfaces reduced by 24%.
Terrain resistance of suspension Tiger II Vesuchs-Serie on soft surfaces reduced by 26%.
Loading capacity Tiger II changed from 72 970 kg to 74 000 kg.
Turn rate of suspension Tiger II changed from 26 to 28 deg/sec.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension Tiger II reduced by 5%.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension Tiger II reduced by 5%.
Terrain resistance of suspension Tiger II on hard surfaces reduced by 9%.
Terrain resistance of suspension Tiger II on medium surfaces reduced by 14%.
Added engine Maybach HL 210 TRM P45.
Added engine Maybach HL 230 TRM P45.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 210 P30.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 230 P45.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 234.
Hull weight changed from 33 400 kg to 32 300 kg.
Added the radio FuG 5.
Forward maximum speed changed from 28 km/h to 38 km/h.
Lower frontal plate thickness reduced from 120 to 100 mm.

For turret Tiger II PzKpfw-VIB-Henschel-Turm:

View range of turret Tiger II PzKpfw-VIB-Henschel-Turm changed from 400 m to 390 m.
Elevation angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 45 L/52 changed from 17 to 15 deg..
Depression angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 45 L/52 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Reload time for gun 10,5 cm KwK 45 L/52 changed from 10,1 sec. to 10,4 sec.
Aim time for gun 10,5 cm KwK 46 L/68 changed from 2,3 sec. to 2,5 sec.
Available ammo for gun 10,5 cm KwK 46 L/68 changed from 36 to 42 units.
Elevation angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 46 L/68 changed from 17 to 15 deg..
Depression angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 46 L/68 changed from 7 to 8 deg..
Reload time for gun 10,5 cm KwK 46 L/68 changed from 11,4 sec. to 10,4 sec.
Aim circle spread for gun 10,5 cm KwK 46 L/68 after moving the turret increased by 20%.
Aim time for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 changed from 2,9 sec. to 2,3 sec.
Elevation angle for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 changed from 17 to 15 deg..
Depression angle for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 changed from 7 to 8 deg..
Reload time for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 changed from 7,7 sec. to 6,7 sec.
Aim circle spread for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 After shooting reduced by 25%.
Turret traverse rate Tiger II PzKpfw-VIB-Henschel-Turm changed from 25 to 27 deg/sec.
Turret weight changed from 13 520 kg to 10 938 kg.

For turret Tiger II PzKpfw-VIB-Porsche-Turm:

View range of turret Tiger II PzKpfw-VIB-Porsche-Turm changed from 400 m to 380 m.
Aim time for gun 10,5 cm KwK 45 L/52 changed from 2,3 sec. to 2,5 sec.
Elevation angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 45 L/52 changed from 17 to 15 deg..
Depression angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 45 L/52 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Aim time for gun 10,5 cm KwK 46 L/68 changed from 2,3 sec. to 2,7 sec.
Available ammo for gun 10,5 cm KwK 46 L/68 changed from 36 to 42 units.
Elevation angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 46 L/68 changed from 17 to 15 deg..
Depression angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 46 L/68 changed from 7 to 8 deg..
Reload time for gun 10,5 cm KwK 46 L/68 changed from 12,6 sec. to 10,9 sec.
Aim circle spread for gun 10,5 cm KwK 46 L/68 after moving the turret increased by 17%.
Aim time for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 changed from 2,9 sec. to 2,5 sec.
Elevation angle for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 changed from 17 to 15 deg..
Depression angle for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 changed from 7 to 8 deg..
Reload time for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 changed from 8,2 sec. to 6,7 sec.
Aim circle spread for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 After shooting reduced by 25%.
Aim circle spread for gun 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 after moving the turret reduced by 25%.
Turret traverse rate Tiger II PzKpfw-VIB-Porsche-Turm changed from 30 to 27 deg/sec.
Turret weight changed from 11 200 kg to 9638 kg.

VK 28.01:

Turn rate of suspension VK 28.01 changed from 44 to 42 deg/sec.
Turn rate of suspension VK 28.01 VK-2801-Ketten Ausf. B changed from 48 to 46 deg/sec.
Added engine Argus 12LD330H.
Added engine Maybach HL 210 TRM P30.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 157 P.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 174.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 210 P30.
Hull weight changed from 10 938 kg to 10 688 kg.
Added the radio FuG 5.

VK 30.01 (H):

Tank tier changed from 6 to 5.
Camo price reduced by 17%.
Suspension tier VK 30.01 (H) changed from 5 to 4.
Loading capacity VK 30.01 (H) changed from 36 000 kg to 33 000 kg.
Suspension price VK 30.01 (H) changed from 10 170 to 4700 credits
Turn rate of suspension VK 30.01 (H) changed from 38 to 20 deg/sec.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension VK 30.01 (H) reduced by 4%.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension VK 30.01 (H) reduced by 4%.
Terrain resistance of suspension VK 30.01 (H) on hard surfaces increased by 10%.
Terrain resistance of suspension VK 30.01 (H) on medium surfaces reduced by 13%.
Terrain resistance of suspension VK 30.01 (H) on soft surfaces reduced by 7%.
XP price of suspension VK 30.01 (H) VK-3001-(H)-Ketten Ausf. B changed from 5340 to 2250 XP.
Suspension tier VK 30.01 (H) VK-3001-(H)-Ketten Ausf. B changed from 6 to 5.
Loading capacity VK 30.01 (H) VK-3001-(H)-Ketten Ausf. B changed from 36 300 kg to 41 000 kg.
Suspension price VK 30.01 (H) VK-3001-(H)-Ketten Ausf. B changed from 16 720 to 10 170 credits.
Turn rate of suspension VK 30.01 (H) VK-3001-(H)-Ketten Ausf. B changed from 40 to 22 deg/sec.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension VK 30.01 (H) VK-3001-(H)-Ketten Ausf. B reduced by 4%.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension VK 30.01 (H) VK-3001-(H)-Ketten Ausf. B reduced by 4%.
Terrain resistance of suspension VK 30.01 (H) VK-3001-(H)-Ketten Ausf. B on medium surfaces increased by 9%.
Terrain resistance of suspension VK 30.01 (H) VK-3001-(H)-Ketten Ausf. B on soft surfaces increased by 9%.
Added engine Maybach HL 116.
Added engine Maybach HL 150.
Added engine Maybach HL 190.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 157 P.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 174.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 210 P30.
Hull weight changed from 16 700 kg to 16 170 kg.
Price of the tank changed from 845 000 to 410 000 credits.
Repair price reduced by 28%.
Maximum reverse speed changed from 20 km/h to 12 km/h.
Forward maximum speed changed from 55 km/h to 35 km/h.

For turret VK 36.01 (H):

View range of turret VK 36.01 (H) changed from 370 m to 360 m.
Available ammo for gun 10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28 changed from 30 to 40 units.
Elevation angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28 changed from 18 to 20 deg..
Depression angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Available ammo for gun 7,5 cm KwK 40 L/43 changed from 92 to 50 units.
Elevation angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 40 L/43 changed from 18 to 20 deg..
Depression angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 40 L/43 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Available ammo for gun 7,5 cm KwK 40 L/48 changed from 92 to 50 units.
Elevation angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 40 L/48 changed from 18 to 20 deg..
Depression angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 40 L/48 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Aim time for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 2,3 sec. to 2,5 sec.
Available ammo for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 60 to 40 units.
Elevation angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 18 to 20 deg..
Depression angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Reload time for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 4,6 sec. to 5,2 sec.
Added the gun 5 cm KwK 39 L/60.
Added the gun 7,5 cm KwK 37 L/24.
Added the gun 7,5 cm KwK 41 L/58 Konisch.
Removed the gun 8,8 cm KwK 36 L/56.
Turret tier VK 36.01 (H) changed from 6 to 5.
Price of the turret VK 36.01 (H) changed from 17 210 to 10 260 deg/sec.
Turret traverse rate VK 36.01 (H) changed from 25 to 24 deg/sec.
Turret weight changed from 4600 kg to 7680 kg.

For turret VK 30.01 (H) 0-Serie:

View range of turret VK 30.01 (H) 0-Serie changed from 350 m to 330 m.
Available ammo for gun 7,5 cm KwK 40 L/43 changed from 78 to 50.
Elevation angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 40 L/43 changed from 18 to 20 deg..
Depression angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 40 L/43 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Added the gun 5 cm KwK 39 L/60.
Added the gun 7,5 cm KwK 37 L/24.
Removed the gun 10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28.
Removed the gun 7,5 cm KwK 40 L/48.
Turret tier VK 30.01 (H) 0-Serie changed from 5 to 4.
Price of the turret VK 30.01 (H) 0-Serie changed from 10 260 to 5130 credits.
Turret traverse rate VK 30.01 (H) 0-Serie changed from 49 to 42 deg/sec.
Turret weight changed from 2500 kg to 3000 kg.
Hitpoints of the turret VK 36.01 (H) changed from 750 to 660 units.
Hitpoints of the turret VK 30.01 (H) 0-Serie changed from 670 to 600 units.

VK 36.01 (H):

Loading capacity VK 36.01 (H) changed from 41 800 kg to 41 500 kg.
Turn rate of suspension VK 36.01 (H) changed from 24 to 22 deg/sec.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension VK 36.01 (H) reduced by 4%.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension VK 36.01 (H) reduced by 4%.
Terrain resistance of suspension VK 36.01 (H) on hard surfaces increased by 18%.
Terrain resistance of suspension VK 36.01 (H) on medium surfaces reduced by 12%.
Terrain resistance of suspension VK 36.01 (H) on soft surfaces reduced by 9%.
Loading capacity VK 36.01 (H) VK-3601-(H)-Ketten Ausf. B changed from 42 900 kg to 45 000 kg.
Turn rate of suspension VK 36.01 (H) VK-3601-(H)-Ketten Ausf. B changed from 27 to 24 deg/sec.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension VK 36.01 (H) VK-3601-(H)-Ketten Ausf. B reduced by 4%.
Gun aim spread from moving the hull for suspension VK 36.01 (H) VK-3601-(H)-Ketten Ausf. B reduced by 4%.
Terrain resistance of suspension VK 36.01 (H) VK-3601-(H)-Ketten Ausf. B on hard surfaces increased by 9%.
Terrain resistance of suspension VK 36.01 (H) VK-3601-(H)-Ketten Ausf. B on soft surfaces increased by 7%.
Horsepower of the engine Maybach HL 174 changed from 610 to 500 hp
Price of the engine Maybach HL 174 changed from 26 250 to 27 200 credits.
Added engine Maybach HL 150.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 210 P30.
Removed the engine Maybach HL 230 P45.
Hull weight changed from 20 000 kg to 17 450 kg.
Maximum reverse speed changed from 16 km/h to 12 km/h.
Forward maximum speed changed from 40 km/h to 50,5 km/h.

For turret Pz.Kpfw. VI H Ausf. H2:

Elevation angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28 changed from 17 to 15 deg..
Depression angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Elevation angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 17 to 15 deg..
Depression angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Reload time for gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70 changed from 4,6 sec. to 4,4 sec.
Available ammo for gun 7,5 cm KwK 41 L/58 Konisch changed from 68 to 72 units.
Elevation angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 41 L/58 Konisch changed from 16 to 15 deg..
Depression angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 41 L/58 Konisch changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Reload time for gun 7,5 cm KwK 41 L/58 Konisch changed from 5,1 sec. to 4,2 sec.
Damage of the shell Pzgr. 41 HK for gun 7,5 cm KwK 41 L/58 Konisch, changed from 165 to 135 units.
Damage of the shell Pzgr. 41 StK for gun 7,5 cm KwK 41 L/58 Konisch, changed from 165 to 135 units.
Available ammo for gun 8,8 cm KwK 36 L/56 changed from 62 to 64 units.
Elevation angle for gun 8,8 cm KwK 36 L/56 changed from 17 to 15 deg..
Depression angle for gun 8,8 cm KwK 36 L/56 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Reload time for gun 8,8 cm KwK 36 L/56 changed from 7,4 sec. to 6,9 sec.
Removed the gun 7,5 cm KwK 40 L/48.
Turret traverse rate Pz.Kpfw. VI H Ausf. H2 changed from 26 to 24 deg/sec.
Turret weight changed from 4600 kg to 8250 kg.

For turret VK 36.01 (H):

View range of turret VK 36.01 (H) changed from 370 m to 360 m.
Elevation angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28 changed from 17 to 20 deg..
Depression angle for gun 10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28 changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Reload time for gun 10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28 changed from 8,6 sec. to 8 sec.
Available ammo for gun 7,5 cm KwK 41 L/58 Konisch changed from 68 to 72 units.
Elevation angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 41 L/58 Konisch changed from 16 to 20 deg..
Depression angle for gun 7,5 cm KwK 41 L/58 Konisch changed from 6 to 8 deg..
Reload time for gun 7,5 cm KwK 41 L/58 Konisch changed from 5,1 sec. to 4,6 sec.
Aim circle spread for gun 7,5 cm KwK 41 L/58 Konisch After shooting increased by 14%.
Damage of the shell Pzgr. 41 HK for gun 7,5 cm KwK 41 L/58 Konisch, changed from 165 to 135 units.
Damage of the shell Pzgr. 41 StK for gun 7,5 cm KwK 41 L/58 Konisch, changed from 165 to 135 units.
Added the gun 7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70.
Removed the gun 7,5 cm KwK 40 L/48.
Turret traverse rate VK 36.01 (H) changed from 42 to 24 deg/sec.
Turret weight changed from 3800 kg to 7680 kg.
Hitpoints of the turret Pz.Kpfw. VI H Ausf. H2 changed from 850 to 950 units.
Hitpoints of the turret VK 36.01 (H) changed from 760 to 850 units.

VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. A:

View range of turret VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. A changed from 400 m to 380 m.
View range of turret VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. A Schwerer Turm changed from 400 m to 390 m.

VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. B:

View range of turret VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. B changed from 400 m to 390 m.

American tanks

Penetration of the shell HEAT-T M496 for gun 76 mm Gun T185 changed from 220 mm to 210 mm.
Penetration of the shell HEAT-T M348 for gun 90 mm Gun T178 changed from 300 mm to 250 mm.

T26E4 SuperPershing:

Loading capacity M26Т80Е1 changed from 52 500 kg to 53 000 kg.
Terrain resistance of suspension M26Т80Е1 on hard surfaces reduced by 14%.
Terrain resistance of suspension M26Т80Е1 on medium surfaces reduced by 12%.
Terrain resistance of suspension M26Т80Е1 on soft surfaces reduced by 21%.
Hull weight changed from 26 500 kg to 26 987 kg.
Maximum reverse speed changed from 16 km/h to 18 km/h.
Forward maximum speed changed from 38 km/h to 40,2 km/h.
View range of turret T26E4 changed from 380 m to 390 m.
Aim circle spread for gun 90 mm Gun T15E1 after moving the turret reduced by 20%.
Hitpoints changed from 1450 to 1500 units.

Chinese tanks:

Penetration of the shell Po-365 for gun 85 mm 62-85T changed from 250 mm to 220 mm.
Penetration of the shell Po-367 for gun 85 mm 64-85T changed from 260 mm to 230 mm.
Penetration of the shell Po-367 for gun 85 mm 64-85TG changed from 260 mm to 230 mm.
Penetration of the shell Po-365 for gun 85 mm Type 62 changed from 250 mm to 220 mm.
Penetration of the shell Chuan chao-367 for gun 85 mm S-53 changed from 161 mm to 167 mm.
Penetration of the shell Chuan jian-365 for gun 85 mm S-53 changed from 120 mm to 126 mm.
Penetration of the shell Po-471 for gun 122 mm D-25T changed from 300 mm to 250 mm.
Penetration of the shell Po-471 for gun 122 mm D-25TA changed from 300 mm to 250 mm.
Penetration of the shell Po-471 for gun 122 mm 37-122JT changed from 300 mm to 250 mm.

Ils nerfent également le Sherman du tuto:

Detailed Russian patchnotes are out. Amongst other things, they contain the following:

M4A3E8 Sherman:

Время прицеливания орудия 76 mm Gun M1A2 изменено с 2,3 сек. до 3,5 сек.
Разброс орудия 76 mm Gun M1A2 после выстрела увеличен на 50%.

(aim time increased from 2,3s to 3,5s, aim spread after shooting increased by 50 percent)

Don’t panic!

This does NOT concern the ingame M4A3E8, it concerns the vehicle that is used in the (American) tutorial, which is designated as “M4A3E8″ too, but it is a separate vehicle. So don’t worry, no Sherman nerfs are coming. At least not for now :P

This has been confirmed by both The_Chieftain and Storm.

Thonyo_again

09/09/2013, 19h29

Т-44:

Reload time for gun 100 mm D-10Т changed from 8,3 sec. to 9,1 sec.
Reload time for gun 100 mm LB-1 changed from 7,9 sec. to 8,6 sec.

Т-54:

For turret Т-54 obr. 1946 г.:
Reload time for gun 100 mm D-10Т obr. 1945 г. changed from 8,1 sec. to 8,8 sec.
Reload time for gun 100 mm LB-1 changed from 7,2 sec. to 7,8 sec.
For turret Т-54 obr. 1949 г.:
Reload time for gun 100 mm D-10Т obr. 1945 г. changed from 7,8 sec. to 8,5 sec.
Reload time for gun 100 mm LB-1 changed from 6,9 sec. to 7,5 sec.

Je joue le T-44 en ce moment pour débloquer le T-54.
Foutage de gueule :tired:

Djezousse

09/09/2013, 19h29

Au début j'ai eu peur pour les russes en voyant la liste des modifs et le sujet des nerfs (le temps de reload, principalement)... avant de me rendre compte que ça ne concerne quasiment que des canons stocks et intermédiaires... :P

Les gens qui pleuraient sur le "nerf" du T26E4 me font bien rigoler, vu que pour un changement de 1° d'inclinaison sur le bas de caisse, le char se tape plein de buff (réduction de la résistance du terrain, speed cap avant et arritère augmenté, plus de HP, plus de distance de vue, moins de dispersion...)

IS-8:
Loading capacity Т-10 changed from 50 900 kg to 50 907 kg.

:tired:

Jalkar

09/09/2013, 19h30

Je joue le T-44 en ce moment pour débloquer le T-54.
Foutage de gueule :tired:

Les dégats du 100mm passe de 230 de moyenne à 250..

Leucha

09/09/2013, 19h32

Les allemands s'amincissent ou la perte de poids de la caisse et de la tourelle sera compensée ?

Thonyo_again

09/09/2013, 19h43

Les dégats du 100mm passe de 230 de moyenne à 250..

My bad j'avais pas vu.
Mais ca fait quand même un peu léger.

Pis les chars français sont épargnés.... c'est louche :ninja:

Djezousse

09/09/2013, 19h49

Les allemands s'amincissent ou la perte de poids de la caisse et de la tourelle sera compensée ?

Oui, d'après Serb:

Reduced weight of german tanks will be compensate by more choucroute for crews : up to 20% more choucroute and wurst for all radiomens and commanders

Nostradanus

09/09/2013, 19h51

Oui, d'après Serb:
Sauerkraut. Quoique ta version est plus amusante, pour une raison qui m'échappe l'ajout de mots français au sein d'une autre langue m'a toujours fait rire.

CaMarchePas

09/09/2013, 20h05

My bad j'avais pas vu.
Mais ca fait quand même un peu léger.

Pis les chars français sont épargnés.... c'est louche :ninja:

Т-44:

Reload time for gun 100 mm D-10Т changed from 8,3 sec. to 9,1 sec.
Reload time for gun 100 mm LB-1 changed from 7,9 sec. to 8,6 sec.

Т-54:

For turret Т-54 obr. 1946 г.:
Reload time for gun 100 mm D-10Т obr. 1945 г. changed from 8,1 sec. to 8,8 sec.
Reload time for gun 100 mm LB-1 changed from 7,2 sec. to 7,8 sec.
For turret Т-54 obr. 1949 г.:
Reload time for gun 100 mm D-10Т obr. 1945 г. changed from 7,8 sec. to 8,5 sec.
Reload time for gun 100 mm LB-1 changed from 6,9 sec. to 7,5 sec.

On a +20 dégâts sur toutes les munitions.
Différences de dpm :
T-44 D-10T : 1662,65 => 1648,35
T-44 LB-1 : 1746,84 => 1744,19
T-54 '46 D-10T : 1703,70 => 1704,55
T-54 '46 LB-1 : 1916,67 => 1923,08
T-54 '49 D-10T : 1769,23 => 1764,71
T-54 '46 LB-1 : 2000 => 2000.

Avant de crier au nerf, on sort sa calculatrice. Si je ne me suis pas planté dans les calculs fait en 30 secondes, c'est plus un buff qu'un nerf... dégâts moyens quasi identiques, alpha supérieur...

Djezousse

09/09/2013, 20h11

CaMarchePas

09/09/2013, 20h21

Surtout que de toute façon, comme je l'ai dit plus haut, le seul qui en "souffre" vraiment c'est le T-44, vu que pour tous les autres, ce sont des canons stocks et intermédiaires. (HO NOES !!§§ Ils ont nerfé le 100mm de l'IS-3 !!!! SCANDAL !!)

Avec 2 et 14 points d'écart sur une minute, en contrepartie de +20 par tir (donc dès le premier tir), il ne souffre même pas, c'est un buff.

Mud mover

10/09/2013, 00h37

Avec 2 et 14 points d'écart sur une minute, en contrepartie de +20 par tir (donc dès le premier tir), il ne souffre même pas, c'est un buff.

Au nombre de mecs que je laisse en vie avec moins de 20pv, oui c'est un buff! :)

Darkama

10/09/2013, 09h48

http://tof.canardpc.com/preview2/ff1a58f7-45f6-4898-9989-14b5a6088c5b.jpg (http://tof.canardpc.com/view/ff1a58f7-45f6-4898-9989-14b5a6088c5b.jpg)

Qu'il est mignon , je veux je veux ! Mais l'excroissance qui s'évade de son chassis me fais un peu penser à ... :tired:

http://tof.canardpc.com/preview2/aeb3c8fe-b9ea-416c-afa9-a3cbd4ccbe09.jpg (http://tof.canardpc.com/view/aeb3c8fe-b9ea-416c-afa9-a3cbd4ccbe09.jpg)

:ninja:

Gtag

10/09/2013, 11h51

Client complet EU. (http://dl.wargaming.net/wot/eu/files/WoT_0.8.8_eu_install.zip)

suppasam

10/09/2013, 12h58

Client complet EU. (http://dl.wargaming.net/wot/eu/files/WoT_0.8.8_eu_install.zip)
Cool, merci. ;)

apocalypsius

10/09/2013, 15h54

Larry Coche

10/09/2013, 16h22

Il ne font plus le telechargement direct du patch?
Parce qu avec ma connexion 3g c est chiant leur mise a jours par le launcher.

Kieffer

10/09/2013, 17h08

En prévision de la nouvelle branche Waffentrager des TD allemands, deux petites questions :

-Sait-on à partir de quel char la branche va commencer ? Un char déjà existant ou un nouveau ? Ce serait pour commencer d'accumuler de l'expérience.

-Acheter le Dicker Max pour entraîner les équipages à venir est-il un bon plan ?

Anonyme111

10/09/2013, 17h10

Apparemment elle partirait du Marder II, et pour le Karlou je pense que ce n'est pas la solution la plus optimale puisque la fin de branche a deux chargeurs.

Wannamama

10/09/2013, 17h42

Storm:

So, recently the germanophiles those who like to play on German tanks were worried that we didn’t put the real long gun with the 150mm autoloader. Here’s a picture especially for those who suffer with correct size ratio. This is how it would look, if we did put the real life autoloaded 150mm gun (Storm: “this construction”) on E-100 chassis:

http://ftr.wot-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/a8d6631ad378f0c703fef23df4157632.png

And by the way, at this moment, the version with Jagdtiger’s top gun and an autoloader for 6 rounds is being tested.

TreeShepherd

11/09/2013, 08h25

10.9.2013

This is the regular daily QA thread. There will be one more special QA post after this today.

- Storm states that the player opinion “there is less than one arty and one scout per battle on average” is not true according to WG’s statistics
- how much arty in battles on average? “less than Storm would like”
- Storm on Superpershing armor: “We are not hiding anything. As usual, we don’t comment on armor.” (SS: when accused that they are hiding some nerfs of SP armor)
- the WT E-100 model is final
- gold shells for T69 will (in connection with their penetration nerf) be automatically sold for credits for their purchase price in 8.8
- according to RU support, the “Lucky” achivement is bugged. Storm stated that it was not fixed in 0.8.8
- it’s technically possible to have different reload times for different shell types on one gun, but this won’t be implemented
- Storm on MM fix in 8.8: “Some problems with settings of servers on which the MM runs were fixed – we will give them more computing power allocated on handling the battle queues, which will lead to better battle balancing.”
- no plans to buff Soviet tier 10 heavies
- IS-4 mantlet is penetrable easily. This is not a bug according to Storm.
- 112′s characteristics are now final
- no plans to improve IS-6 maximum speed
- Storm states that the lower frontal plate of King Tiger is historical now (100mm), the 120mm picture circulating on the internets is wrong
- VK4502P viewrange nerfs were done for “balance reasons”
- it will not be possible to buy 112 or T-34-3 for gold in 8.8
- Storm confirms: the Sherman/T-34 “massive nerf” (aimtime, spread) are valid only for those special tanks in tutorial
- Superpershing won’t recieve limited MM
- regarding the VK3001H/VK3002M relationship:
1) VK3002M stats will start from zero
2) if VK3001H was unlocked – VK3002M will be unlocked
3) if you have VK3001H in the hangar, you will get a free VK3002 with a garage slot and 100 percent crew, but without ammo, equipment or consumables
4) if VK3001H had camo, this camo will be cloned to VK3002M (with same expiring time), this goes for decals/inscriptions too
5) any accumulated experience on VK3001H will be transferred to VK3002M
- new VK3601H heavy tank MM weight and profitability “will be the same as on other tanks of its tier and class”
- it’s possible Sacred Valley will be reworked, specifically the issue where upper team can light up the lower team easily, but not vice versa
- Severogorsk won’t be limited to low tiers only
- Superpershing will be sellable for gold only until 8.9 comes out
- SerB states that the alleged experimental E-75 1200hp diesel was not real, only a wish of the designers. Maybach managed to bring its HL engine only to 1000hp until 1955
- if VK4502P is ever moved to tier 8, its armor will be nerfed to historical values (SS: in real life it was lot less, roughly like the one of the VK4502 without rear turret, the turret was only 80mm thick)
- 128mm L/55 wouldn’t fit historically in top E-75 turret
- GW E-100 not being able to dispose of a low medium tank because of bad depression? “Don’t let him reach you”
- combat missions font might be made bigger (SS: Russians are complaining about its size)
- in 8.8, teamdamage to a platoon mates will count as normal team damage (no free platoonmate killing)
- all the removed engines can be found in your depot
- the reason for the mid tier German changes was aligning all the tanks to roughly the same pattern (gameplay-wise)
- in the new rating system, average XP counts without premium account

- according to RU support, the “Lucky” achivement is bugged. Storm stated that it was not fixed in 0.8.8 : non juuuuure !!! :|

- Superpershing will be sellable for gold only until 8.9 comes out : Avis aux possesseurs désireux de vous en séparer, le temps n'est pas illimité.

- in 8.8, teamdamage to a platoon mates will count as normal team damage (no free platoonmate killing)

NNOOOOoooOOOOOoooNNNNNNNNNnnnnnnnnnnn !!!!
http://nsa35.casimages.com/img/2013/09/11/130911095549474352.gif

Infernux

11/09/2013, 10h15

Naaaaaan je pourrais plus tuer Nostra :tired:

TreeShepherd

11/09/2013, 12h54

New 8.8 teamdamage system

First a little video from RU server:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIKX_4igdFU

This is a video from live 8.8 on RU server (you can see the VK3002M there). The guy was banned for “team damaging” (that was the popping up window) after some very slight (but repeated) damage.

In other words: be VERY careful who you ram/damage in 8.8.

Gasp' !!! (http://forum.canardpc.com/threads/82332-Infos-Prochaines-m%C3%A0j-derni%C3%A8res-r%C3%A9v%C3%A9lations-et-fausses-rumeurs-V2?p=7015105&viewfull=1#post7015105) :O

Joolmax

11/09/2013, 13h21

Client complet EU. (http://dl.wargaming.net/wot/eu/files/WoT_0.8.8_eu_install.zip)

10 jours restants. Merci Free.

Thonyo_again

11/09/2013, 13h23

Gasp' !!! (http://forum.canardpc.com/threads/82332-Infos-Prochaines-m%C3%A0j-derni%C3%A8res-r%C3%A9v%C3%A9lations-et-fausses-rumeurs-V2?p=7015105&viewfull=1#post7015105) :O

Ils ont mis en place le système du "celui qui ram avec la plus grande vitesse paie" ou on peut toujours se faire emmerder par des lights aveugles en début de partie ?

sucemoncabot

11/09/2013, 13h42

Ils ont mis en place le système du "celui qui ram avec la plus grande vitesse paie" ou on peut toujours se faire emmerder par des lights aveugles en début de partie ?

Changement des règles qui déterminent qui a effectué une manœuvre de bélier. La manœuvre sera attribuée au joueur dont le char va le plus vite au moment du contact entre les véhicules.
http://worldoftanks.eu/fr/content/guide/release-notes/release-notes-88/

Banjozor

11/09/2013, 14h09

La caserne déconne chez moi, je ne vois pas les gaziers , alors qu'il est possible de les recruter via le char.

Mamadou

11/09/2013, 14h17

Gasp' !!! (http://forum.canardpc.com/threads/82332-Infos-Prochaines-m%C3%A0j-derni%C3%A8res-r%C3%A9v%C3%A9lations-et-fausses-rumeurs-V2?p=7015105&viewfull=1#post7015105) :O

Moui, j'ai sauté sur mon collègue de platoon 1-2 secondes après je prenais 1 semaine de ban

Thonyo_again

11/09/2013, 14h37

http://worldoftanks.eu/fr/content/guide/release-notes/release-notes-88/

Ok merci ^^.
Ca arrangera pas mal de problème.

Djezousse

11/09/2013, 14h47

Pff, il est tout pourri leur système de classement ; il pondère pas du tout (ou très peu) les tiers joués, et il favorise le nombre de partie...
Du coup c'est encore complétement baisé, comme pour le classement sur le site du jeu...

Slammy

11/09/2013, 14h50

Moi j'aime leur utilisation des termes PedoBear, Twinkies et SealClubbers dans leurs notes officielles :D

Noir le Lotus

11/09/2013, 14h54

C'est quoi déjà les twinkies ?

Gtag

11/09/2013, 14h57

Des Twinks, alts ou rerolls. Bref des comptes créés pour afficher des stats scandaleuses.

bonobo

11/09/2013, 14h59

Ajout du tir automatique en appuyant sur le bouton et en le maintenant enfoncé.

Kieffer

11/09/2013, 15h09

La caserne déconne chez moi, je ne vois pas les gaziers , alors qu'il est possible de les recruter via le char.

En fait il suffit de cocher les différents facteurs de tri qui sont buggués et ne sont pas cochés ou activés quand on ouvre la caserne. Une fois un critère choisi dans chaque catégorie les membres d'équipages daignent se montrer. ;-)

Leucha

11/09/2013, 15h11

il favorise le nombre de partie..

Clairement. Il me donne un ratio plus élevé que TacTac qui est bien plus efficace que moi.

fenrhir

11/09/2013, 15h36

10 jours restants. Merci Free.Chez moi, 2Mo/s pour le client complet. Oui, merci Free :)

---------- Post added at 15h36 ---------- Previous post was at 15h29 ----------

Allez voir topic des stats, z'allez vous marrer :) Je préfère le WR première version, limite :tired:

Thyrion

11/09/2013, 15h45

Ajout du tir automatique en appuyant sur le bouton et en le maintenant enfoncé.
Ils ont pensé aux possesseurs de Foch 155 :).

ZeFeKa

11/09/2013, 15h49

Ou aux joueurs de T1 :>

bonobo

11/09/2013, 15h53

C'est pourtant pas le monde qui manque sur ce torrent :

http://tof.canardpc.com/preview2/d0b7bafa-c2de-4d33-b443-9c760a33d7a5.jpg (http://tof.canardpc.com/view/d0b7bafa-c2de-4d33-b443-9c760a33d7a5.jpg)

Catel

11/09/2013, 18h52

Beaucoup de changements sur les feuilles de stats :o

Quel est l'indice de la "cote personnelle" ? Elle vous semble pertinente ? (de toute évidence ils ont voulu créer un indicateur qui soit plus populaire que le winrate)

Quitol

11/09/2013, 19h09

CaMarchePas

11/09/2013, 19h32

Je rage déjà : Karelia, je suis en fv304 (comme la pigeo, ou je me suis trompé, arty T6 anglaise), un KT devant moi, on sort de la base sud pour aller vers l'est, il s'arrête dans la descente, tir dans le sol, y'a rien hein, mais je suis juste derrière donc je me mange 100 de collision et il ne prend pas de pénalité. >.>

Partie suivante, pareil, un KT (encore) va tout droit vers la colline de campinovka, puis il tourne à 90° sans raison et je perd la moitié de ma vie...

bonobo

11/09/2013, 19h36

CaMarchePas

11/09/2013, 19h44

Ok je râle deux posts d'affilée mais, question : QU'EST CE QUE JE FOU LA ???

http://tof.canardpc.com/preview2/9d3a3b67-73e1-4bb7-82e4-7c910cd82986.jpg (http://tof.canardpc.com/view/9d3a3b67-73e1-4bb7-82e4-7c910cd82986.jpg)

3ième rage : les enculays ils m'ont sucré ma "Technical Engineed : Germany" en rajoutant leur char intermédiaire ! Vais devoir me retaper le pz.III.A ! Salopards !

4ième rage : j'ai plus le "put own crew/best crew" :'(

Ah, antirage : y'a le temps de rechargement du barillet complet dans le garage maintenant !

Mud mover

11/09/2013, 19h59

@CMP, le best crew est un mod, mais je ne sais plus le quel.

bonobo

11/09/2013, 20h03

@CMP, le best crew est un mod, mais je ne sais plus le quel.
Xvm

Ckao

11/09/2013, 20h05

Ah putain c'est XVM? Je croyais que c'était inclus dans une MAJ précédente...

CaMarchePas

11/09/2013, 20h09

C'était inclu dans Jimbo, ça ne fonctionne plus, si c'est qu'une option dans XVM, ça m'intéresse mais je ne l'ai jamais eu ailleurs qu'avec Jimbo alors que j'utilises d'autres mods utilisant XVM.

Joolmax

11/09/2013, 20h32

chez moi, 2mo/s pour le client complet. Oui, merci free :)

---------- post added at 15h36 ---------- previous post was at 15h29 ----------

allez voir topic des stats, z'allez vous marrer :) je préfère le wr première version, limite :tired:

çay degeulasse §§§

Thonyo_again

11/09/2013, 21h15

çay degeulasse §§§

Heureusement qu'il y a le DDL parcequ'avec ce torrent pourri j'en aurai eu pour 30 ans :tired:

D'ailleurs c'est marrant de voir que l'onglet "Japon" est déjà implémenté dans le dépot ou le magasin :lol:

Par contre j'avais déjà oublié à quel point les sons de base du jeu sont vides. :vomit:

TreeShepherd

11/09/2013, 22h37

Heureusement qu'il y a le DDL parcequ'avec ce torrent pourri j'en aurai eu pour 30 ans :tired:

D'ailleurs c'est marrant de voir que l'onglet "Japon" est déjà implémenté dans le dépot ou le magasin :lol:

Par contre j'avais déjà oublié à quel point les sons de base du jeu sont vides. :vomit:

Et il me semble que GnomeFather's Engine pack et Historical RealismGun Sound Mod ne sont à jour ni l'un ni l'autre.

CaMarchePas

11/09/2013, 22h55

Serait-il possible qu'ils aient enfin mis la sélection de chars "principaux" en ligne ? A chaque patch je dois remettre mes chars principaux, et quand je change un char de statut, ça ne me l'a toujours fait que sur le pc concerné, en changeant de pc (genre en prenant mon portable) fallait refaire ma sélection. Et là que vois-je ? Mes chars "principaux" sont déjà sélectionnés sur mon portable y compris le PZ.III.A racheté tout à l'heure.

C'est pas grand chose, mais c'est bien !

Noir le Lotus

11/09/2013, 22h56

Tiens moi c'est l'inverse, en général je les avais toujours et là j'ai dû les remettre tous ...

JulLeBarge

11/09/2013, 22h56

ouaip c'est un des ajouts du patch 8.8 la sauvegarde serveur

Aun

11/09/2013, 23h12

C'est de la merde.
Aun à un meilleur PR que moi :tired:.

Trololol. ^_^^_^

raaahan

11/09/2013, 23h39

Tiens, Adimo (pour une fois qu'il en sort une pas conne:p) a remarqué qu'on pouvait déjà acheté des obus japonnais, je suppose ceux du heavy premium qui doit être disponible aux supertesters

http://tof.canardpc.com/preview/acec88a3-415c-4cd7-9971-9fdb61210f49.jpg (http://tof.canardpc.com/view/acec88a3-415c-4cd7-9971-9fdb61210f49.jpg)http://tof.canardpc.com/preview/27e5e243-9250-47f1-93da-fa12a3ff101e.jpg (http://tof.canardpc.com/view/27e5e243-9250-47f1-93da-fa12a3ff101e.jpg)http://tof.canardpc.com/preview/950a4658-d793-4d7e-a6bf-75ab29a08bde.jpg (http://tof.canardpc.com/view/950a4658-d793-4d7e-a6bf-75ab29a08bde.jpg)

CaMarchePas

12/09/2013, 00h04

Adimo

12/09/2013, 00h08

Ouais, c'est ce qu'on m'avait dit, donc j'ai été voir dans le magasin, et pareil x) Mais avec une surprise en plus.

Catel

12/09/2013, 15h07

Toujours pas de réponse: c'est quoi la référence pour mesurer la "cote personnelle" ?

lafouine2baz

12/09/2013, 15h17

Toujours pas de réponse: c'est quoi la référence pour mesurer la "cote personnelle" ?

Va voir dans le topic des stats (à tes risques et périls ... )

fenrhir

12/09/2013, 16h21

Toujours pas de réponse: c'est quoi la référence pour mesurer la "cote personnelle" ?Vieeennnnnssssssssss :ninja:

Catel

12/09/2013, 17h11

J'ai tout compris :lol:

Enfin, compris de ce qu'il y avait à retenir :siffle:

Djezousse

12/09/2013, 17h19

Ce qu'il faut en retenir c'est que c'est nul et pas représentatif du niveau du joueur.
Autant continuer à utiliser le WN7, qui, à défaut d'être parfait, est un peu plus représentatif du niveau réel d'un joueur.

Projet 154

12/09/2013, 23h51

Information tirée de FTR, la prochaine promo "top of the tree" sera sur la branche du Maus :

http://ftr.wot-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/OPovQgLr.jpg

Lien (http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/09/12/next-top-of-the-tree-is/)

Je vais pouvoir m'acheter le Ausf A et me racheter le Ausf B. :lol:

CaMarchePas

13/09/2013, 03h53

Mais non, ça doit être les med ou heavies tinois, osef du maus on l'a déjà tous !

bonobo

13/09/2013, 09h10

Fait chier, les meds engliches putain.

Thonyo_again

13/09/2013, 09h34

Les heavys FR berdel de morde !!!!!!!!

Carpette

13/09/2013, 09h59

TD russes épicétou

Thonyo_again

13/09/2013, 10h04

Quoique les meds tinois me forceraient à aller chercher le WZ-120 :ninja:

Projet 154

13/09/2013, 11h01

Mais non, ça doit être les med ou heavies tinois, osef du maus on l'a déjà tous !

Fait chier, les meds engliches putain.

Les heavys FR berdel de morde !!!!!!!!

TD russes épicétou

http://imageshack.us/a/img255/9/759917.jpg

Thonyo_again

13/09/2013, 11h09

:cry:

Psychocouac

13/09/2013, 12h14

Chouette la branche que je monte : p

titi3

13/09/2013, 12h58

Perso une bonne vieille promo sur l'IS-3 m'arrangerait...j'ai la freepex pour débloquer direct le BL-9 :bave: Mais si je ne me trompe il y a eu une promo récente sur la branche .. ?

bonobo

13/09/2013, 13h01

Perso une bonne vieille promo sur l'IS-3 m'arrangerait...j'ai la freepex pour débloquer direct le BL-9 :bave: Mais si je ne me trompe il y a eu une promo récente sur la branche .. ?

Yep, quand ça s'appellait Special: Big and Heavy (http://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/44/special-big-and-heavy/)

Djezousse

13/09/2013, 13h03

Perso une bonne vieille promo sur l'IS-3 m'arrangerait...j'ai la freepex pour débloquer direct le BL-9 :bave: Mais si je ne me trompe il y a eu une promo récente sur la branche .. ?

Oui, la première de la série, donc à mon humble avis, tu n'es pas près de la revoir ;)
Ceci étant, une promo sur la seconde branche heavy russe m'irait bien, merci ! :P

kalimad

13/09/2013, 13h10

Oui, la première de la série, donc à mon humble avis, tu n'es pas près de la revoir ;)
Ceci étant, une promo sur la seconde branche heavy russe m'irait bien, merci ! :P

Pareil, faut que je rachète l'IS-4.

bonobo

13/09/2013, 13h13

Alkeas

13/09/2013, 15h27

http://i48.tinypic.com/141nip.jpg

Classic SerB :wub:

bonobo

13/09/2013, 16h42

Classic SerB :wub:

Dire que toute la communauté WoT tient au bout de ce doigt ! Quel équilibriste, quelle puissance digitale ! C'est presque aussi fort que Jean-Michel Jarre avec ses lasers.

banzai

13/09/2013, 18h48

Fait chier, les meds engliches putain.

Eux aussi, ils ont déjà été en promo.

bonobo

13/09/2013, 19h42

Eux aussi, ils ont déjà été en promo.

:tired: ... J'ai pourtant cherché ... Tu parles de lorsque le Cromwell était le char du mois ?

chlochlo

13/09/2013, 19h46

Classic SerB :wub:
"Achetez le 112 et le t-34-3 et à moi les putes et la coke§§§§§§§§§§§§§§!"
http://izipik.com/images/201308/21/28kr8go2w39qx5xh49ln-serb.jpg

bonobo

13/09/2013, 19h54

Eux aussi, ils ont déjà été en promo.

:tired: ... J'ai pourtant cherché ... Tu parles de lorsque le Cromwell était le char du mois ?

:cry:
Big and Heavy: British Missions (http://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/44/big-heavy-british/)

banzai

13/09/2013, 23h16

B)
"Achetez le 112 et le t-34-3 et à moi les putes et la coke§§§§§§§§§§§§§§!"
http://izipik.com/images/201308/21/28kr8go2w39qx5xh49ln-serb.jpg

Tu te fournis chez THE MITTANI toi ?

Psychocouac

14/09/2013, 14h26

Tiens, j'avais loupé ça moi:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BaxMdBRK8Z0#t=427

Spall liner réduit maintenant la probabilité de se faire blesser l'équipage. (50% sur le super heavy)

Ça peut rendre le truc intéressant sur certains chars ayant des weakspotss avec des mecs importants dedans (genre le Tortoise et son loader). A test.

Je vous conseil également la vidéo sur les new maps qui sont très intéressantes.

cotueur

14/09/2013, 21h55

Psychocouac

14/09/2013, 22h01

Disons qu'il est moins indispensable qu'un loader mais bon pourquoi pas. :XD:

bonobo

15/09/2013, 16h29

J'avions pas vu qu'il ferait un encounter pour Mountain Pass :

http://uppix.net/KWCZXj.png (http://uppix.net/KWCZXj)

Meneldil

15/09/2013, 17h28

Wé, j'adore cette map avec mon IS3. Y a toujours de beaux peekaboo autour du drapeau. Et comme je suis à chaque fois top tier (jusqu'à maintenant), je fais parler le BL-9 et la tourelle à 220 + slop.

Quitol

15/09/2013, 17h48

J'avions pas vu qu'il ferait un encounter pour Mountain Pass :

http://uppix.net/KWCZXj.png (http://uppix.net/KWCZXj)

Ces spawns :O.

Djezousse

15/09/2013, 18h15

Ces spawns :O.

Même qu'il y a un caillou magique sur le cap en mode encounter, alors que c'est pas le cas sur la map normale.
On s'est même rendu compte qu'on pouvait capper sur le pont.
Ça sert à rien, mais c'est bon à savoir : ninja:

Noir le Lotus

15/09/2013, 18h50

Je l'ai testée côté sud et c'est assez sympa. Par contr, je me demande si l'équipe nord est pas désavantagé car les 2 spawns sont vraiment très séparés donc tu as vraiment 2 moitiés d'équipe akirs que côté sud, tu peux vraiment partir comme tu veux ...

Djezousse

15/09/2013, 18h53

Pour avoir joué les 2 cotés, ça ne m'a pas semblé déséquilibré d'un coté ou de l'autre : la carte est petite donc les 2 groupes peuvent se rejoindre vite, et si l'équipe sud a pas mal de positions de tir, l'équipe nord a elle beacoup de couverts et un avantage certain sur le cap. En tout cas je l'ai trouvée sympa, ça change pas mal la dynamique de cette map.

bonobo

15/09/2013, 20h21

Sympa la nouvelle annonce de char élite

http://uppix.net/i304Mas.png (http://uppix.net/i304Ma)

---------- Post added at 20h21 ---------- Previous post was at 20h18 ----------

Pour avoir joué les 2 cotés, ça ne m'a pas semblé déséquilibré d'un coté ou de l'autre : la carte est petite donc les 2 groupes peuvent se rejoindre vite, et si l'équipe sud a pas mal de positions de tir, l'équipe nord a elle beacoup de couverts et un avantage certain sur le cap. En tout cas je l'ai trouvée sympa, ça change pas mal la dynamique de cette map.

J'avais pas remarqué le mode encounter en démarrant, du coup quand j'ai vu le premier contact en E2 au bout de 15 secondes, j'ai halluciné.

TreeShepherd

16/09/2013, 07h20

On s'est même rendu compte qu'on pouvait capper sur le pont.
Ça sert à rien, mais c'est bon à savoir : ninja:

Si : bloquer la capture en se foutant juste avant le pont, en haut !
Tu bloque et ceux d'en bas peuvent pas te chopper.

Joolmax

16/09/2013, 09h33

Je la trouve plus attractive cette map Mountain Pass. Il faut être au taquet partout tout le temps. Etonnament, j'ai remarqué que les équipes faisaient un effort de communication sur cette map. En plus dans cette configuration, j'ai utilisé des spots que je n'avais pas idée d'utiliser avant.
De plus ça permet des suicides de tank du haut du pont pour décaper. Ou des tentatives foireuses. Fun.

JulLeBarge

16/09/2013, 09h40

J'ai fait une partie hier sur cette carte en mode encounter et en effet c'est vraiment chouet ce drapeau sous le pont !

Infernux

16/09/2013, 11h17

J'ai fait une partie pas dégueux en A-43 sur cette map... elle est donc pas trop mal :ninja:

Djezousse

16/09/2013, 12h05

Peux-t-on par contre en dire autant du A-43 ? Le doute m'étreint.

Meneldil

16/09/2013, 12h12

Non mais par contre l'A-44 est rigolo :ninja:

TreeShepherd

16/09/2013, 12h17

Peux-t-on par contre en dire autant du A-43 ? Le doute m'étreint.

Son canon est pas formidable mais comme certains autres char : sa classe ne lui correspond pas vraiment.
Jouez le comme un medium : c'est une bouse !
Jouez le comme un scout : c'est une bombe ! (58km/h sur du plat et accélération pas dégueu).

Raplonu

16/09/2013, 16h43

Infernux

16/09/2013, 16h58

Son canon est pas formidable mais comme certains autres char : sa classe ne lui correspond pas vraiment.
Jouez le comme un medium : c'est une bouse !
Jouez le comme un scout : c'est une bombe ! (58km/h sur du plat et accélération pas dégueu).

Ouais enfin scouter sur une map à couloir...

Von Grabenstein

16/09/2013, 17h37

Jouez le comme un scout : c'est une bombe ! (58km/h sur du plat et accélération pas dégueu).

L’utilité du scout a en partie disparu en même temps que celle de l'arty.

Tel est mon point de vu, avant on pouvait scout et s'attendre à ce que le type se prenne 3 coups d'arty, mais ça.... c'était avant... :cry:
Maintenant si on scout à l'autre bout de la map nos collègues peuvent pas nous couvrir, et si on scout des ennemis à 400-500 mètres ou même moins loin, nos coéquipiers sont souvent tellement demeurés qu'ils rateraient un Maus au corps à corps.

Chocolouf

16/09/2013, 18h47

L’utilité du scout a en partie disparu en même temps que celle de l'arty.

Tel est mon point de vu, avant on pouvait scout et s'attendre à ce que le type se prenne 3 coups d'arty, mais ça.... c'était avant... :cry:
Maintenant si on scout à l'autre bout de la map nos collègues peuvent pas nous couvrir, et si on scout des ennemis à 400-500 mètres ou même moins loin, nos coéquipiers sont souvent tellement demeurés qu'ils rateraient un Maus au corps à corps.

Les TD et autres chars précis mais peu mobiles et à distance de détection de merde te remercient de ta remarque pertinente.

Meneldil

16/09/2013, 22h18

A propos de mountain pass, j'ai eu le droit à me la farcir en boucle avec notament le M5 chinois. Dans l'équipe qui spawn à deux endroits, je fonce au drapeau (en haut) et j'attends. Jusqu'à maintenant, personne n'est jamais venu me chercher. Par contre pour l'équipe au spawn commun, le cap est beaucoup plus dur à atteindre surtout quand on est accompagné de noobs qui ne savent pas pousser.
A mon sens, cette carte est totalement déséquilibré.

Jusqu'ici, j'ai commencé une dizaine de fois au sud (bases séparées donc) et j'ai toujours gagné. Mais genre bien gagné. Généralement une partie des mecs du nord foncent vers le drapeau, laissent leurs potes se faire défoncer, et se font décap par un type qui fait attention, ou un autre qui va sur le pont. Sinon en med (ça passe en T-44 sans les moteurs), en commençant au sud ouest, je rush le pont en ignorant les mecs qui campent près de la montagne du nord ouest, et je prends le reste de l'équipe à revers (celle qui est à l'est). Généralement, ça fait mal.

Panurge6

17/09/2013, 15h08

SerB seems angry today, some of his answers are rude, full of typos and trolling. When called on that, he said it’s because the “amount of idiots here has increased”

- Q: “SerB, last year (the idea of winning Golden Joystick) caused enthusiasm amongst players (unlike this year), what do you think about such a fundamental change in player attitude?” A: “I don’t care” (later he says that people are “celebrating” WoT GJ loss too early and they need to chill out and he closes with “Whine, whine never changes”)
- SerB doesn’t like swearing in ingame chat, as “there is always a non-vulgar word that can be used and is no less offensive”, for example “noobies” instead of “retards” (SS: this is an approximation of what SerB said, in Russian there are two not rude word for noobs: Alleni (which comes from the name Alyosha if I recall correctly) – a generic name for noobs, or Oleni (deers), that’s why so many Russian videos about noobs have deer pictures in them)

- AMX-30 does fit the WoT timescale and it is possible it will be introduced as 2nd French top medium
- tank hitpoints have nothing to do with that tank’s armor, it’s a balance parameter (SS: this answer came from a question, whether the tank hitpoints in game are tied to some real life tank characteristics, such as armor. In ancient WoT times, it was considered the hitpoints to be roughly tied to the tank internal space (the more internal space, the more hitpoints), but this has been disproved many times already).
- (If I understand it correctly) there are no plans to introduce more options how to one- or two-shot a tank with midtier guns (the already existing being fire and ammorack explosion)
- E50 is considered to be a medium tank because it was classified as such in German sources
- SerB states that the 1200hp German engines were not historical
- some French engines are also unhistorically strong
- historical and garage battles will appear at some point in both WoWp and WoT
- the T-44-122 hull (with a massive driver’s booth) won’t be added as an optional hull to the tier 8 T-44, because there are other upgrades to go with on that tier
- it’s not sure whether the hemispherical T-54 turrets will be available for the 100mm frontal armor hull only. There is an option to implement the optional 120mm frontal armor hull too, that one would however limit the speed of the tank
- for now, there are no other candidates for removal from the game (like the T-50-2 was), but SerB states “we’ll see”
- the smallest number of planned branches at this moment belongs to the Chinese and Japanese trees
- there are no plans to rework the 10-caliber rule (SS: shell flies only the distance of 10 its calibers after the armor is penetrated)
- no amnesty for permabanned accounts is planned (“Some things, like real life threats, we do not forgive”)
- the artillery XP unlock price for various arty tiers was done according to WG calculations, there are no plans to reduce it further
- for now there are no concrete plans to allow players to get a tier 7-8 premium tank as a mission reward, but SerB states that if such a thing ever comes, the mission will be very difficult
- there are no plans for near future to bring a tier 8 British premium heavy into the game
- SerB states that he disagrees with the internet info that Panzer III/IV could rotate its turret only by 270 degrees
- according to SerB, World of Tanks gameplay adheres to “fair play” principles
- SerB states that the algorithm for aiming has not changed (SS: whatever that means)
- SerB when asked why a player that has 30-50FPS in WoT has 50-70 in WoWp: “Most likely your videocard works better with algorithms, used for computing open space”
- the XP requirement for T-62A and Object 140 won’t be reworked: whoever wants both, has to grind like 400k XP on T-54
- it’s possible player’s clan statistics (like on the portal) will be implemented into the game service record
- Type 62 did become smaller, Storm states that some changes are simply forgotten and don’t make it to the patchnotes, there will be no compensation for Type 62 change, Type 62 won’t get limited MM either
- KV-5 won’t be sellable for gold (SS: as it wasn’t changed)
- SerB doesn’t think the “VK3002M” is a dull name and that it should be called “Prototype Panther”, as the VK3002M is historical
- Swamp and Komaring maps don’t have any tier limites, they are available on all tiers
- maps returning from re-work “sometimes” have bigger chance to drop when they are implemented like completely new maps
- there were Soviet turret tank destroyers, for example the 85mm AA gun in rotating turret on T-34 chassis, but they won’t be implemented for now
- the guns for 3001H and 3601H were chosen “based on historical and balance considerations”
- for now, more than one arty branche per nation is not planned, but principially possible
- trees that are missing one type of vehicle (arty, TD, med, heavy, light) are not planned for now
- big maps, smoke shells and smokescreens, rocket tanks (RBT-5), new equipment and new crew skills: “when it’s done it’s done”
- “many” people bought T-34-3
- Panzer I Ausf.C has regular MM of a tier 3 LT
- JT88 to recieve lower frontal plate nerf (120 to 100mm)? “If needed”
- A-43 too weak? “Don’t play A-43″
- the final decision on what will happen to KV-1S will come “after the tests are over”
- the composition of the 8.9 German TD branch is final

Thonyo_again

17/09/2013, 16h08

- AMX-30 does fit the WoT timescale and it is possible it will be introduced as 2nd French top medium

;)

Carpette

17/09/2013, 16h18

- A-43 too weak? “Don’t play A-43″
:love:

apocalypsius

17/09/2013, 22h00

;)

On aura peut être droit au Somua dans la branche. Certains ont des idées de ce qui pourrait y avoir dans la dite branche?

Psychocouac

17/09/2013, 22h23

- AMX-30 does fit the WoT timescale and it is possible it will be introduced as 2nd French top medium

Mouai je sais pas si j'aurai le courage de me retaper une branche pour avoir une copie conforme du Leopard 1. (parce que la c'est au niveau de l'object 140/T62A la comparaison entre les deux.) Mais bon ça fait toujours plaisir de voir un nouveau char frenchie.

Alkeas

17/09/2013, 22h26

- big maps, smoke shells and smokescreens, rocket tanks (RBT-5), new equipment and new crew skills: “when it’s done it’s done”

Owi ! Tuer son adversaire en provoquant une chute de fps massives :bave:

- Swamp and Komaring maps don’t have any tier limites, they are available on all tier
:o
Le PakPak des marais !

Anonyme111

17/09/2013, 23h33

On aura peut être droit au Somua dans la branche. Certains ont des idées de ce qui pourrait y avoir dans la dite branche?

Aux dernière nouvelles, l'arbre ressemblait à ça :

http://www.worldoftanks-wot.com/wp-content/uploads/french_tree_fulleng-for-book_true_com-1024x793.jpg

Thonyo_again

18/09/2013, 08h44

Mouai je sais pas si j'aurai le courage de me retaper une branche pour avoir une copie conforme du Leopard 1. (parce que la c'est au niveau de l'object 140/T62A la comparaison entre les deux.) Mais bon ça fait toujours plaisir de voir un nouveau char frenchie.

De ce que je lis ça et là sur le char réel, " sa tourelle coulée d'une pièce est un modèle au niveau de la protection balistique ".

Avec un peu de chance cette caractéristique se retrouvera dans le jeu sous la forme d'une tourelle solide genre médium russes ou chinois.

Après, si il a une classe de médium, son gameplay sera je pense différent du léopard.

Meneldil

18/09/2013, 09h25

Infernux

18/09/2013, 10h20

Merci pour ce troll inutile. Au revoir

fenrhir

18/09/2013, 10h42

Aucun rapport. Personne ne joue les chars fr. Avec, tu auras la classe, alors qu'avec le Leo, tu passes pour un blaireau.Ouai, sûr que des Leo on en retrouve 4 par partie (et jamais de BC 25t)...

Von Grabenstein

18/09/2013, 11h13

Aux dernière nouvelles, l'arbre ressemblait à ça :

http://www.worldoftanks-wot.com/wp-content/uploads/french_tree_fulleng-for-book_true_com-1024x793.jpg

Amx-13 Chaffee/Fl 11
:huh:
Un Chaffee équipé d'un barillet ?

Leucha

18/09/2013, 11h23

Amx-13 Chaffee/Fl 11
:huh:
Un Chaffee équipé d'un barillet ?

Nan, c'est l'inverse. Un chassis d'AMX 13 avec une tourelle de Chaffee. Après, cet arbre techno est assez vieux, et de plus, ils l'ont retiré rapidement.

Aerial

18/09/2013, 17h24

Un petit aperçu de la nouvelle map dont le package a fait son apparition dans les fichiers du jeu (Asia Great Wall)

http://tof.canardpc.com/preview2/1fe8a3cf-67c7-4e6d-a434-778eec164615.jpg (http://tof.canardpc.com/view/1fe8a3cf-67c7-4e6d-a434-778eec164615.jpg)
http://tof.canardpc.com/preview2/fc20f031-72bf-4038-a7dc-491b0fbdf45f.jpg (http://tof.canardpc.com/view/fc20f031-72bf-4038-a7dc-491b0fbdf45f.jpg)
http://tof.canardpc.com/preview2/71f2ae52-d62c-400e-93ca-c7af212f8c97.jpg (http://tof.canardpc.com/view/71f2ae52-d62c-400e-93ca-c7af212f8c97.jpg)
http://tof.canardpc.com/preview2/d29176ff-2978-43b6-bfc1-124c6d9603ac.jpg (http://tof.canardpc.com/view/d29176ff-2978-43b6-bfc1-124c6d9603ac.jpg)

fenrhir

18/09/2013, 17h31

À voir avec la map vue de haut mais j'aime bien ce genre de disposition (beaucoup d'herbe, peu de merde, des bosses mais bien nettes, etc).

Valmon

18/09/2013, 19h21

(beaucoup d'herbe, peu de merde, des bosses mais bien nettes, etc).

:tired:

Psychocouac

18/09/2013, 19h32

Ah ca y est. Ils se décident enfin à mettre l'IS3 avec des proportions à peu prêt correct:

http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/09/18/storm-shows-new-models/

Adimo

18/09/2013, 19h34

Bobby-du-desert

18/09/2013, 20h09

Parce qu'il n'a pas les bonne proportions ? Ah, j'avais pas vu :o
Ils peuvent pas faire de choses dont les gens on qqch à faire ? plutôt que d'utiliser des ressources sur des choses assez triviales :o

Ben ça va changer énormément de choses par rapport aux angles du bec, non? Il va être moins casse burnes à pen, j'espère...

Noir le Lotus

18/09/2013, 20h21

Le changement de modèle veut pas forcément dire que les angles du blindage seront modifiés, mais une silouette plus grande va le rendre plus fragile normalement.

Chocolouf

18/09/2013, 21h04

- JT88 to recieve lower frontal plate nerf (120 to 100mm)? “If needed” :(

Bobby-du-desert

18/09/2013, 21h23

Le changement de modèle veut pas forcément dire que les angles du blindage seront modifiés, mais une silouette plus grande va le rendre plus fragile normalement.

Je sais même pas pourquoi j'ai dit ça... C'est sûrement que sur l'image j'ai eu l'impression de voir les deux plaques frontales magiquement relevées par rapport au jeu...
Enfin, si ça augmente la taille de la coupole du chef de char, moi j'dis pas nein!

Noir le Lotus

18/09/2013, 21h52

D'après les Q&R, les modèles de collision seront bien revus pour ces deux chars.

Psychocouac

18/09/2013, 21h57

Quand on regarde les commentaires y a des mecs qui se touchent la nouille sur une possible augmentation de l'angle du frontal de l'is3.

Perso je vois juste un char plus haut qu'avant, dans le même genre que l'is8, avec une tourelle qui fera plus autobounce des tirs sur son blindage arrière.

Carpette

19/09/2013, 11h07

Mud mover

19/09/2013, 11h36

Le frontale je ne sais toujours pas où le taper quand il est incliné, dans la flèche qui arrive au centre ou dans le petit triangle qui relie la flèche avec le flanc?

kalimad

19/09/2013, 11h53

Le frontale je ne sais toujours pas où le taper quand il est incliné, dans la flèche qui arrive au centre ou dans le petit triangle qui relie la flèche avec le flanc?

Ce qui est à 90° par rapport à ton canon.

Carpette

19/09/2013, 12h03

Le frontale je ne sais toujours pas où le taper quand il est incliné, dans la flèche qui arrive au centre ou dans le petit triangle qui relie la flèche avec le flanc?

Le petit triangle (qui est tout sauf petit, vu que c'est la plus grosse surface planne du frontal de l'IS3).
Si le mec n'est pas pile face à toi, fait toi plaisir, c'est open bar

fenrhir

19/09/2013, 12h18

l'IS3 ...
Je ne comprend réellement pas comment vous pouvez l'adorer autant.

Je l'ai détesté en le jouant (et pourtant j'ai un winrate de 60% avec ... ça m'a étonné quand j'ai vu ça hier), et j'adore le croiser vu comment il se déboîte facilement (la moindre erreur d'alignement de face, et je tire direct dans le frontal, ça passe 4 fois sur 5 avec un 105 ricain de T29 (enfin, de M6A2E1 pour être exact). Je parle bien du frontal hein, pas du bas de caisse)Oublie pas que tu joues surtout contre du tout-venant. Donc du noob. Perso, mon IS-3 avait fâcheuse tendance à facehug tout ce qu'il croisait au T8. Entre ceux qui ont le débattement pour viser sous la tourelle mais paniquent, et ceux qui n'ont pas le débattement, tu sais qu'en cas de ce genre de duel, tu seras gagnant bien souvent. Et si en plus t'es malin, tu peux gérer 2 T8 d'un coup en le faisant :
- le T8 que tu facehug, que tu vas laisser intact le temps de gérer son pote,
- le T8 qui se planquait en retrait et qui croit être sauf, mais que tu vas focus, et déboîter (merci le BL-9).
Faut juste prendre soin de synchro ses tirs sur ceux du gogol que tu facehug, pour toujours le présenter le frontal de tourelle au moment de son tir.

banzai

19/09/2013, 13h19

17.9.2013
Posted on September 17, 2013 by Silentstalker — 157 Comments ↓
- according to SerB, the fact that in 0.8.8 one team gets a tier 10 heavy while the other gets tier 10 arty is normal, as “tanks are not balanced against one another”
- SerB likes the WT E-100 model
- 122mm top gun for WZ-120 too XP expensive? “Don’t play WZ-120″
- (regarding previous question) Q: “Jokes aside, 200 thousand XP for a gun is 2,5 times more than on other tanks” A: “Too bad”
- it’s possible lendlease Soviet Lee and Sherman will come in forseeable future

- T-35 will not come this year or the next apparently (SS: odd)
- T-44-122 will not be available for regular players, it is a supertester gift
- premium tanks as mission rewards? “No idea, but hardly.”
- Panzer IV Hydro and SU-85i for random players? “When it’s done it’s done”
- it’s possible that in some future premium derp tanks with howitzers will be added, but no plans for that now
- there were historically fast (agile) French tanks for tiers 1-4
- FCM 36 might appear on tier 2, SerB will check it out
- tier 8 French medium premium tank? “We’ll see later”
- Wargaming (via Tactical Press) will possibly make books on planes too, not just tanks (SS: in Russian only. I wish there was stuff in English too)
- SerB states that the rear turret VK4502 is pleasant to play, despite players whining that it’s dull. He also states that DW2 is doing normally
- theoretically the physics WoT engine allows for practically unlimited speed (SS: earlier, the tank speed was limited by 72 km/h by the engine)
- in the near/medium future: further physics development, new clanwars, historical battles
- Swamp and Komarin maps are bad? “Your opinion is, as always… (SS: very important to us)” (SS: Komarin is great! :) )
- Object 261 acting like TD too overpowered? “Don’t drive in front of Object 261″ (no plans to change it)
- Type 59 and limited MM – according to Storm it fits how it is now
- old Service record window won’t return
- there will be no general nerf for TD’s (like there was for arty), nor will there be a TD hardcap in battles, Storm states that “it’s simply not needed”
- there will be a rework of hangar and magazine interface
- Q: “Why did you nerf Chinese and US HEAT shells?” A: “Don’t shoot Chinese and US HEAT shells”
- ZIS-4 gun on T-34 had its ROF nerfed? “Don’t play T-34 with ZIS-4″
- it’s completely possible that some nations won’t have hightier light tanks and some will, for example the British have nothing suitable for hightier scouts, but SerB states that they didn’t dig around Bovington for that yet
- apparently the KV-3 stock and middle engines won’t be reworked (Storm states that the V-5 is experimental, V-2IS was a serial engine)
- the reasons some medals were removed from individual tank statistics (Kay, Carius medals) were “technical reasons”
- Mountain Pass access to the mountains (where players used to camp) was removed “to change the gameplay”
- the tier 9 Waffentrager on Panzer IV chassis was chosen because “nothing else was found”, it will have hitpoints analogical to other tier 9 TD’s
- it’s possible various maps will have spring/summer/fall/winter settings, more variants of lighting and sky textures – this was considered, it might come but not anytime soon
- damaging the suspension does not reduce terrain passability
- Chaffee will be reworked in time
- it’s possible Tetrarch will be sold, but “not necesserily as a premium tank” (SS: Tetrarch was planned a long time ago to be a British regular light tank)
- the new tier 6 prototype Panther and Tiger rebalance have nothing to do with upcoming historical battles, this was done independently
- for now, server won’t be selectable directly from hangar
- it’s possible that it will be possible to switch servers without having to disband a platoon or company
- stone fences apparently do block view range, low TD’s can hide behind them
- servers are named by numbers (RU1,2 etc…) because numbers are easier to remember than abstract names (they won’t be renamed after cities where they are hosted)
- it’s possible that if new interesting vehicles are found for tiers that are already occupied by other vehicles, they will be added as an alternative possibility to go thru (like the Ferdinand/JP2)
- it’s possible that if some nations won’t have enough vehicles for an entire 2nd/3rd branch, these vehicles will be implemented as an incomplete minibranch, that will end in the original branch (the way China has it for example)
- HEAT and APCR shells do the same damage as AP shells “for game reasons”
- A-44 engine gets critted too often even with cyclone filter? “Don’t play A-44″
- there will be further improvements made to the teamdamage punishment system
- VK4502A depression will be changed “if needed”
- Q: “Developers, did you think about improving the minimap?” A: “No, we don’t have no brains at all, we don’t think about anything”
- it’s possible the absolute numbers will return to the winrate statistics (like it was in 8.7)
- when you shoot a blue (teamkiller) teammember, that damage doesn’t count towards your damage done reward
- SerB on whiners: “I don’t give a damn about some individual hysterical players, beggars and idiots. Do not confuse those with regular players – unfortunately, small parts of those groups do intersect with one another”
- Q: “SerB, do you answer questions while suffering from hangovers?” A: “No, since I don’t suffer from hangovers. But the topic is, as I understand, close to you? :)”
- SerB on mods and cooperation with modders: “We and the modders generally differ in opinions – we don’t consider many of the mod functions to be necessery. Even further, we don’t want the interface to look like an Excel table. I for example do not use any mods. Accordingly, for those for whom the standard interface is not enough and have the need to have an “excel-like” interface we are going to introduce official mod support (including their certification)”
- there are Chinese arties available, the only tiers not decided yet are 9 and 10, they don’t have any specificity compared to current arties
- average battle time has increased since the arty nerf, but not significantly
- WG will not disclose, how will they fight rigged company battles
- more variety in destroyed tank models is planned, but that doesn’t mean they will have holes in it where they were hit, that would be technically difficult to do
- the unlockable hull modules are not tied to historical battles
- WG is preparing improved WoT graphics, won’t be announced for now
- Munster doesn’t want to release RU251 info, so it’s not ready yet
- Soviet tank A-41 (improved T-34 program prototype) will possibly make it into the game as an optional hull for A-43
- unlockable hulls will most likely come next year, as the amount of modelling needed for that is huge

Mud mover

19/09/2013, 14h05

Je suis un gros noob alors parce que je n'arrive jamais à percer là :|

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Perso, mon IS-3 avait fâcheuse tendance à facehug

Ca fonctionne également très bien en T-54 mais il n'a pas le même effet panique que l'IS-3 :love:

titi3

19/09/2013, 20h29

L'IS-3 yabon qu'est ce que vous racontez :o ?

banzai

19/09/2013, 20h40

19/09/2013

Regular QA:

- limited MM for M6A2E1? “Don’t play M6A2E1″ (SS: no, it won’t get limited MM)
- in one of the WG streams, Viktor Kisly stated that when the suspension gets yellow, the tank agility (dynamic) is reduced. SerB states that this is not true and that V.Kisly simply didn’t know the mechanics in details, as he is the director of the entire company, while SerB leads the game mechanics development

- SerB states that E-100 shells can ricochet from Batchat, despite the fact the 3-caliber (SS: caliber of gun 3 times bigger than the nominal armor means no ricochets) rule is still valid
- Q: “Why does a tank with a gun similiar to Tetrarch appear on tier 4?” A: “Because of complex of characteristics, that is not reduced to penetration only”
- Object 140 will stay on its place (as being unlockable from T-54), as its direct predecessor was the Object 139, which is one of the ingame T-54 configurations
- SerB states that several hundred thousand people actually read forums, so that’s like 1 percent of all players
- the WoWp release will not happen on 26th of September apparently, as there are issues with the integration of WoWp and WoT accounts
- gunpowder quality (SS: for example the fact the Germans had gunpowder generating less smoke) will not be taken into account (SerB stated that he hasn’t found any real proof that German gunpowder generated less smoke, he states that it’s possible that American authors write that because American gunpowder created too much smoke and not vice versa)
- Q: “When will the developers start answering the player questions live via chat?” A: “When you double the amount of hours a day has”
- SerB states that because the STB1 has some sort of loading assistant, it’s completely possible its 105mm rate of fire will actually be better than the ROF of other tier 10 meds
- Japanese voicovers will most likely come with the Japanese patch
- SerB states that the final number of the nations in World of Tanks is 8 (SS: EU counts as one)
- no special medal for courageous resistance is apparently planned
- so far, WG has not found a way for clanless players to participate in clanwars, that wouldn’t become a source of exploits for clan players. If they do, they will let us know. Mercenaries are scrapped.
- the list of buffed tanks in 0.8.9 will come in 0.8.9 patchnotes
- if a premium tank has too low winrate, it’s possible it gets buffed, but only in certain boundaries
- RU251 this year? “When it’s done it’s done”
- there is a possibility of M41 Walker Bulldog appearing in the game (SS: it will almost certainly be a tier 6-7 American light tank)
- it’s not sure when the Japanese tanks come (either this or the beginning of next year)
- it’s possible that the Great Wall Chinese map will come for EU/RU/US servers too
ah oui, et

http://ftr.wot-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/IMG_8751.jpg

Leucha

19/09/2013, 20h43

Ils parlent de buffer quelques chars tier 1-5. Je rêve d'un rééquilibrage de l'AMX 40 :bave:

Infernux

19/09/2013, 21h26

C'est ton char, donc ce sera un nerf !

Leucha

19/09/2013, 21h38

:cry:

(Le pauvre si ça lui arrive ^_^ )

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-Max speed of AMX 40 decreased from 52km/h to 25 km/h

:trollface:

Meneldil

19/09/2013, 23h05

Ils parlent de buffer quelques chars tier 1-5. Je rêve d'un rééquilibrage de l'AMX 40 :bave:

Oui. Autant lui et le B1 ont été funs un petit moment (après la modification du MM), autant aujourd'hui, ils ne valent pas tripette. Entre les Mathilda, mieux blindés et disposant d'un vrai canon, les hetzers pedobear qui goldent dès qu'ils te voient, et les lights qui ont assez de péné pour te défoncer (Chi Ha, T-70, Luchs, Valentine...).
Je suis monté à 63% de victoire en 130 parties y a un an en B1bis. Aujourd'hui, c'est même pas la peine d'y penser.

Aerial

19/09/2013, 23h25

-Max speed of AMX 40 decreased from 52km/h to 25 km/h

:trollface:

Au moins, ça collera à la réalité. :)

Alkeas

19/09/2013, 23h57

- SerB states that E-100 shells can ricochet from Batchat, despite the fact the 3-caliber (SS: caliber of gun 3 times bigger than the nominal armor means no ricochets) rule is still valid

Blindage au point d'impact sans tenir compte de l'inclinaison / normalisation ?

Bobby-du-desert

20/09/2013, 00h52

Blindage au point d'impact sans tenir compte de l'inclinaison / normalisation ?

Nominal armor, je crois bien que c'est dans l'épaisseur du blindage en mm dans tous les cas sans tenir compte de l'inclinaison; par opposition à effective armor.
Donc c'est nominal armor le mot qui est défini par la phrase que je viens de citer.
Mais merde, il utilise nominal armor dans sa phrase! Et c'est opposé à la pu**** de règle qu'il cite
Donc, merde, j'y comprends que dalle :wacko:

Le wiki dit que:

If the AP or APCR shell's caliber is 2 times or more than the nominal thickness of the armour (Such as a 120mm shell hitting a 60mm thick plate), projectile shell normalization is increased by the following formula: basic normalization * 1.4 * shell caliber / nominal armour thickness. Note that the shell is still capable of bouncing if it strikes the armor at an angle of 70° or more from normal.
If the AP or APCR shell caliber is 3 times or more than the nominal thickness of the armour (such as a 120mm shell hitting a 40mm thick plate), no ricochet will happen even if the impact angle is more than 70° from normal. The increased shell normalization described above will also occur.
In cases involving HE shells or external module hits, overmatch does not occur.

La règle des 2 calibres permet des bounces. Celles des 3 (citée par SerB et Storm) strictement pas, si on l'applique à la règle. Donc y'a une couille dans le patay, quelqu'un se fout de ma gueule...
Mon avis c'est que:
-soit SerB s'est trompé et voulait en fait parler de la règle des 2 calibres, il doit parler d'un 150 mm qui tape 60 mm de frontal...
-soit dans le wiki, ils devraient avoir marqué "effective armor"... Et c'est contradictoire avec la définition même du wiki

Et à cette étape là, je crois que j'ai compris cette daube. Si on distingue ricochet et non-pénétration.

no ricochet will happen even if the impact angle is more than 70° from normal. The increased shell normalization described above will also occur.
J'crois que pour que le 150mm bounce sur les 40 mm du cul du Bat', ça se passe comme ça:
-Tir d'un obus de 150 mm de calibre,
-Impact fessial.
-La règle des 3 calibres s'applique: l'obus ne ricochera pas!
-Mais là, bang, en fait espèce de fourbe germanique, après le calcul de normalisation, bah la fameuse règle des 3 cal. stipule aussi que
The increased shell normalization described above will also occur. !
-Je sors mon de blindage effectif (http://www.panzerworld.com/relative-armor-calculator?angle_1=10&angle_2=90&armor_thickness=40)
-Je rentre les 40mm du fessier du Bat', je suppose que le tir a eu lieu avec un angle 7°, sur un terrain plat
-Selon le calculateur, on a un blindage de 328.22036mm, l'obus ne pénètre pas, mais il n'a pas ricoché non plus!
:lol:
J'ai compris!
(J'ai réfléchi en même temps que j'ai écrit, et j'ai pas envie de supprimer mon raisonnement, je préfère le partager avec le monde entier.)

Milyyym

20/09/2013, 03h59

Ou alors il parle de la possibilité de faire un bounce en cas d'angle pourri sur la plaque frontale (en partie blindée à 60mm) ou la base de la tourelle (70mm à l'avant).

http://tof.canardpc.com/view/2ce48919-dad3-4e72-8e56-8abb0f20c4fb.jpg http://tof.canardpc.com/view/2e7f1f7d-cd8c-40ba-9fc3-4f24c88ed0b8.jpg

Bobby-du-desert

20/09/2013, 04h05

150/3 ça fait 50, donc tes cas ne sont pas des cas ou l'overmatch par un obus trois fois plus épais que le blindage du char visé!

Infernux

20/09/2013, 08h45

Il parle d'un obus de 150mm et non de 150mm de péné

CaMarchePas

20/09/2013, 09h03

Il parle d'un obus de 150mm et non de 150mm de péné

Oui et ? La règle utilise le calibre, pas la pénétration.

Leucha

20/09/2013, 10h12

Oui. Autant lui et le B1 ont été funs un petit moment (après la modification du MM), autant aujourd'hui, ils ne valent pas tripette. Entre les Mathilda, mieux blindés et disposant d'un vrai canon, les hetzers pedobear qui goldent dès qu'ils te voient, et les lights qui ont assez de péné pour te défoncer (Chi Ha, T-70, Luchs, Valentine...).
Je suis monté à 63% de victoire en 130 parties y a un an en B1bis. Aujourd'hui, c'est même pas la peine d'y penser.

Ouais, ils ont un peu le syndrome du E-100 à son époque.

Infernux

20/09/2013, 13h13

My bad

Milyyym

20/09/2013, 14h03

150/3 ça fait 50, donc tes cas ne sont pas des cas ou l'overmatch par un obus trois fois plus épais que le blindage du char visé!
Il doit manquer un truc dans ta phrase (ou je n'ai pas compris).
La règle dit que si tu tires un obus de 150mm, il ne pourra pas ricocher sur un blindage de 50mm ou moins, quel que soit l'angle. Mes images montrent les parties du Batchat qui sont blindées à plus de 50mm, donc peuvent provoquer un bounce dans les bonnes conditions, ce qui rejoint les dires de SerB (E-100 shells can ricochet from Batchat, despite the fact the 3-caliber rule is still valid).

Bobby-du-desert

20/09/2013, 14h25

Il doit manquer un truc dans ta phrase (ou je n'ai pas compris).
La règle dit que si tu tires un obus de 150mm, il ne pourra pas ricocher sur un blindage de 50mm ou moins, quel que soit l'angle. Mes images montrent les parties du Batchat qui sont blindées à plus de 50mm, donc peuvent provoquer un bounce dans les bonnes conditions, ce qui rejoint les dires de SerB (E-100 shells can ricochet from Batchat, despite the fact the 3-caliber rule is still valid).

Ouais, il manque un truc en effet!

150/3 ça fait 50, donc tes cas ne sont pas des cas ou l'overmatch [par un obus trois fois plus épais que le blindage du char visé] s'applique!

Mais je comprends pas ou tu veux en venir!
SerB parle d'un cas ou la règle semble tordue pour le joueur; donc il prend en exemple celui qui (me) semble être le moins blindé des TX (ou bien il parle de ce char parceque la question était formulée en impliquant un Bat')
Mais il ne dit pas que le tir de 150 tord la règle du triple calibre en tapant sur la partie à 70mm de blindage, ce serait un non sens :huh:

Milyyym

20/09/2013, 15h59

Mais je comprends pas ou tu veux en venir!
SerB parle d'un cas ou la règle semble tordue pour le joueur; donc il prend en exemple celui qui (me) semble être le moins blindé des TX (ou bien il parle de ce char parceque la question était formulée en impliquant un Bat')
Mais il ne dit pas que le tir de 150 tord la règle du triple calibre en tapant sur la partie à 70mm de blindage, ce serait un non sens :huh:
Non, il ne dit pas ça. Il dit qu'un obus de E-100 peut (dans certains cas) ricocher sur un Batchat, et ce même en appliquant la règle des 3 calibres.

Je répondais en fait à ton post #233 (http://forum.canardpc.com/threads/82332-Infos-Prochaines-m%C3%A0j-derni%C3%A8res-r%C3%A9v%C3%A9lations-et-fausses-rumeurs-V2?p=7043289&viewfull=1#post7043289), où tu semblais penser que SerB avait confondu la règle des 2 calibres qui influe sur la normalisation et celle des 3 calibres qui empêche le ricochet, et te lançais dans des calculs compliqués pour sortir une non pénétration à la place d'un ricochet (je ne sais pas si on peut faire la différence IG d'ailleurs), en disant que le blindage du Batchat peut (dans certains cas => impact au bon endroit avec le bon angle) faire vraiment ricocher des obus de 150mm sans calcul de pénétration, ce qui est rapporté par SilentStalker.
Après, je ne connais pas les paroles exactes de SerB. Il a peut-être donné plus de précisions qui n'ont pas passé la traduction, mais je pense qu'il est resté volontairement dans le flou.

Bobby-du-desert

20/09/2013, 16h48

Les paroles de SerB:

- SerB states that E-100 shells can ricochet from Batchat, despite the fact the 3-caliber (SS: caliber of gun 3 times bigger than the nominal armor means no ricochets) rule is still valid

Ma traduction c'est:
"SerB affirme que des obus d'E-100 peuvent ricocher sur un Batchat, malgré le fait que la règle des trois calibres soit toujours valide." (SS: un calibre du canon 3 fois plus gros que l'armure nominale signifie: pas de ricochet)

Du coup, la question à laquelle j'ai essayé de répondre, c'est juste: comment un 150 mm peut ricocher sur 40 mm (Pour moi la formulation de SerB implique qu'un ricochet est possible dans un cas d'application de la règle des 3x, donc avec un blindage <à 50mm, donc un cul de bat')

Mais quand même j'ai l'étrange impression de tourner en rond et d'être le sourd dans cette discussion. J'essaye de réparer mon micro et de passer sur Mumble ce soir ou demain, on se comprendra peut-être mieux à l'oral...

22 parties, 4 victoires cet aprèm, je suis pas vraiment au top de ma forme ce derniers temps, désolé pour mon lag, ma lourdeur...

Leucha

20/09/2013, 16h59

Non, il ne dit pas ça. Il dit qu'un obus de E-100 peut (dans certains cas) ricocher sur un Batchat, et ce même en appliquant la règle des 3 calibres.

Et toi ça éveille pas un soupçon de curiosité, cette contradiction ? :wacko:

banzai

20/09/2013, 17h26

Non, il y a des zones où il peut ricocher et d'autres où il ne peut pas.

Je ne vois pas où est la contradiction.

EDIT : Et une nouvelle qui va faire des heureux !

http://ftr.wot-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/33097_900.jpg

Milyyym

20/09/2013, 18h13

Et toi ça éveille pas un soupçon de curiosité, cette contradiction ? :wacko:
Comme dit Banzai, je ne vois pas de contradiction. Un obus de 150mm peut ricocher sur des zones de blindage de plus de 50mm, zones qui existent sur le batchat.

SerB, du moins dans ce qui a été rapporté par SS, ne dit pas que n'importe quelle partie du batchat peut faire ricocher des obus de ce calibre. Juste qu'un tel obus peut ricocher sur le batchat, sans précision supplémentaire.

La scène telle que mon expérience des forums WoT me la fait imaginer :
- Q : Pourquoi il m'arrive de ricocher sur un batchat avec mon E-100 alors qu'en suivant la règle des 3 calibres c'est impossible ?
- R : Bah si c'est possible (mais je ne te dirais pas comment).

Psychocouac

21/09/2013, 16h45

Oh mon dieu. °D (http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/09/20/confirmed-official-gup-voicepack/)

raaahan

21/09/2013, 16h48

Oh mon dieu. °D (http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/09/20/confirmed-official-gup-voicepack/)
Oh
My
God
!

banzai

21/09/2013, 18h01

Vous êtes long à la détente ^_^

Adimo

21/09/2013, 21h58

- ” Q: “Why did you remove the log from T-34-3? T-54 and Type 59 have it” A: “Lack of forest” ”
J'ai pas du tout compris la question le log ? logarithme ? log quoi ?