Endless Space 2, le topic où on est en soldes et à 91% d'userscore !

[the_wamburger]

Ben on itère toutes les quelques semaines, et ensuite quand on a un truc qu'on aime bien on inclut les changements dans le patch d'après.

[Anonyme1202]

3 mois et 21 jours.

La R&D avance tranquillement sur les features de base, le chemin est encore long mais un jour... un jour...

[Ruadir]

La nouveau Patch "Target Locked update" qui rajoute notamment les chasseurs et bombardiers arrive le 12 septembre !



Au menu
- Chasseurs et bombardiers
- Nouvelles quêtes
- Nouveau thème pour le menu principal
- Nouvelle Héroïne(par contre Jennifer, le nom sonne un peu trop Terrien, non ?)



https://www.games2gether.com/endless...is-coming-soon

[Turgon]

Un patch qui rajoute une héroïne bonnasse.

Eh ma foi.

[Aymeeeric]

Un patch qui rajoute une héroïne bonnasse.

Eh ma foi.

Mouais, la c'est toi qui "sexualise" un peu, je trouve.

[Turgon]

Mouais, la c'est toi qui "sexualise" un peu, je trouve.

Oh bien sûr. J'ai jamais dit que c'était de la faute d'Amplitude, mais disons que c'est plus la plastique qu'autre chose qui semble intéressant chez elle, de ce qu'on en sait jusqu'ici, surtout quand on met sa photo au même niveau que celle des chasseurs/bombardiers, l'autre gros ajout d'amplitude.

[Vroum]

Pour les gens pressés

Spoiler Alert!

parce que bon le 12 ça laisse pas beaucoup de temps pour faire une partie avant divinity os 2

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[the_wamburger]

Oh bien sûr. J'ai jamais dit que c'était de la faute d'Amplitude, mais disons que c'est plus la plastique qu'autre chose qui semble intéressant chez elle, de ce qu'on en sait jusqu'ici, surtout quand on met sa photo au même niveau que celle des chasseurs/bombardiers, l'autre gros ajout d'amplitude.

Quand je mets des images, je m'arrange pour les mettre toutes au même format, ça n'aurait aucun sens de caler un timbre-poste sous prétexte que l'ajout est mineur. À côté de la feature F/B, la quête est plutôt mineure aussi, pourtant l'image l'accompagnant est en grand aussi.

[iHateWin]

Clairement je n'y vois rien de choquant. Et la nvlle heros n'est pas non plus une bimbo au sein a l'air faut pas abuser.

[Ruadir]

Elle à un côté pirate et surtout elle est issue du premier Endless Space.



Par contre "wamburger", vous avez pensé à mettre une cinématique d'intro ? Un peu comme celle de Endless Legend qui explique le contexte de l'univers.
Je pensais que le trailer "pathfinder" serait utilisé comme introduction mais ce n'est pas le cas.

[the_wamburger]

Les droits sur la musique de Pathfinders sont limités dans le temps (quelques années), donc on ne peut pas les mettre dans le jeu pour de bon (la question revient souvent et c'est vrai que ce serait tellement bien ).

[Barbazoul v2]

D'ailleurs, bravissimo pour la musique du jeu, c'est un régal. J'espère que dans une future extension on trouvera de nouveaux morceaux du même acabit.

[LeLiquid]

Les droits sur la musique de Pathfinders sont limités dans le temps (quelques années), donc on ne peut pas les mettre dans le jeu pour de bon (la question revient souvent et c'est vrai que ce serait tellement bien ).

Et vous pouvez pas la remplacer par une musique ?

[Yog-Sothoth]

On sait à quel heure arrivera le patch ? Il y a des horaires établis sur Steam ou chaque studio fait ce qu'il veut ?

[Ourg]

Il y a moyen d'avoir des traité d'accès sans devoir faire une alliance. C'est assez frustrant de se taper un malus diplomatique parce que le vaisseau d'explo à effleuré la zone d'influence d'un empire.

[the_wamburger]

Et vous pouvez pas la remplacer par une musique ?

Le trailer a été monté pour correspondre à la chanson qui avait été choisie, alors c'est pas si facile de passer à autre chose en gardant le même esprit.

On sait à quel heure arrivera le patch ? Il y a des horaires établis sur Steam ou chaque studio fait ce qu'il veut ?

Chaque studio fait comme il veut (imagine le merdier si Steam devait synchroniser tout ça), donc on va sans doute faire ça en fin d'aprèm, entre 3h et 6h de l'après-midi.

Il y a moyen d'avoir des traité d'accès sans devoir faire une alliance. C'est assez frustrant de se taper un malus diplomatique parce que le vaisseau d'explo à effleuré la zone d'influence d'un empire.

Non, mais avec le patch les vaisseaux d'exploration ne devraient plus déclencher l'ire des voisins.

[Ruadir]

Les droits sur la musique de Pathfinders sont limités dans le temps (quelques années), donc on ne peut pas les mettre dans le jeu pour de bon (la question revient souvent et c'est vrai que ce serait tellement bien ).

Je suis tout triste, il y a pas d'intro.

Petite question comme ça : il y a pas moyen de virer Zelevas du Trône dans un futur proche ? Je m'étais fait à l'idée d'avoir l'Impératrice Pétra Mandzukic à la place.
Putain de vieux con arrogant et paranoïaque.

[Yog-Sothoth]

J'ai hâte.

[Ourg]

on peut plus améliorer l'AA avec le panneau nvidia ? Ca ne fait plus d'effet depuis le patch

[LeLiquid]

Je vois que le jeu est en promo sur Steam. Y'a toujours le problème des bug bloquants ? Genre la save corrompu ou bien le tour infini ?

[Aymeeeric]

Je vois que le jeu est en promo sur Steam. Y'a toujours le problème des bug bloquants ? Genre la save corrompu ou bien le tour infini ?

Nope.

[the_wamburger]

Je me permets de quote mes 6 pages de patch notes :

[ADDITIONS]

Fighters and bombers
Dedicated Battle tactics
Dedicated Squadron support modules
Dedicated Fighters & Bombers quest
Pirate hero Jennifer Rach
Unfallen main menu view, added ships to Cravers & Sophons main menu view
Implemented better explosions
Added the Force Free Movement input (CTRL + Mouse2) to the controls in the options
Mac compatibility mode: if you are still encountering issues with the Diplomacy screen, try adding the “-compat” command line to your game’s starting options in Steam. If it works, let us know so we can add your graphics card to the list of cards triggering this mode by default!



[FIXES]

Planetary destruction cutscenes can now be disabled
The notification title is no longer noted as a “successful expedition” when encountering a trap in a curiosity
The industrialists "New colony" law's description now scales correctly on different game speeds
Fixed law upkeep not being properly displayed when it is modified by faction traits
Fixed an issue causing the rebellion notification to not be triggered
Pirate fleets now auto-merge at the end of every turn if possible
Unified luxury resources tooltips in order to have luxury effects on all locations
Fixed an issue where the retreat feature did not function properly on the vineship hulls
Fixed "zoom in" sound being played on repeat when zooming with scrollwheel on a system when already zoomed in
Alliance notifications are no longer displayed when created by unknown empires during gameplay
It is no longer possible to leech the same system several times at once with the same fleet
Counter-offer does not cause the price of diplomacy contracts to be paid again
The quick start and beginner tutorial options are now properly displayed when hovering the cursor over the New Game button after the player exits the advanced/expert tutorial
Teleporting probes (due to lag) now update the fog of war as intended
Fixed an issue preventing players from making actions while another player is joining the game in multiplayer
The mouse cursor now uses a proper pointer after the end of the turn when the player was dragging a construction during the end of the turn
Notifications are no longer popping up when a planet destruction is launched (cf. Vodyani's Quest Hope In Heresy)
It is no longer possible to load a save when in loading/saving screen, to avoid loading a save that's being deleted
Fixed ready feedback of the notification battle setup
Fixed a rare desync on hotjoining a game
Added the possibility to rename trade companies
Riftborn population construction is now automatically upgraded instead of blocking the system construction queues when an upgraded version is available
Fixed tooltips of battle tactics unlocks from the technology screen displaying false information
Fixed deed "Prospector of destruction" not tracking resources correctly
Curiosities now display the correct regular curiosity icon greyed out instead of the padlock when no probes are currently available
The player is no longer automatically reassigned to the first slot when changing the session mode from multiplayer to singleplayer
The player no longer stays stuck in the "Connecting to lobby" loading screen if the host exits the lobby
The player is now assigned to the previously occupied lobby slot when re-joining
System approval is now correctly displayed on Riftborn outposts
Description of the planets are now displayed properly after quick loading while watching the cinematic of the same system
The "Isyander's Gambit" quest side indicator is now correctly displayed for fleets which orbit systems
A character input limit for the player name in the New Game screen has been added to prevent the player from remaining stuck upon ending their turn if their name comprises a large amount of characters
The System Scan View button is now correctly displayed in the Outpost Management screen
The player can now only ask for one political survey per turn
The player can no longer interact with the Galaxy screen from the Senate screen
Battle tactics description no longer overlaps the range indicator in the battle tactics unlock tooltips
Added information in the System List that a system is under siege
Players creating custom factions will now have information as to why they can't add certain traits
Decaying roots no longer remove other empires' colonies
Added information about which population will be enrolled by the Chain Gang Program improvement
Ship Design screen no longer displays default/placeholder Industry cost when designing Arks
Color palette changes (colorblind settings) are now correctly applied
Fixed an issue where the planetary destruction audio track continued to be played after the cinematic is skipped
There are now tooltips on the relation gauge to inform the player regarding the effects of the minor factions diplomacy thresholds
Users can no longer assign skills to heroes available in the market without purchasing them
Fixed an error when the player is trying to change the video quality level
Accepting an invite during a single player session will no longer cause the player to be immediately removed from the lobby after joining it
The empire banner tooltips of dust/manpower/influence now cover the whole section, not just the stock
Effects of the "Military Spine" skill from the Imperials and Primitives hero classes are now correctly displayed
Added available stock of resources in the negotiation screen + changed default value of the quantity field for resource terms (from max stock to 1)
Highlights which surround the Fleet ID no longer blink multiple times when the player clicks on a lane
Skippable assert is no longer generated after using the Quick Load function and immediately quitting the current game session. Removed the possibility to quick load when a Confirmation Message Box is visible to avoid these kinds of strange behaviors
Fixed the description of the notification when a ship discovers a fleet and is destroyed in the same turn
Added a scrollbar that allows to see all the luxury resources in the Marketplace screen
Luxury resources and trade lane freighters are no longer overlapping and are now correctly displayed
Added information about the starting situation (planet, government, politics) of a faction in the faction choice
Added more detailed tooltips for planets in the custom creation screen
Fixed an issue where the player could create custom factions while the "Allow Custom Faction" setting was disabled
The Systems Management list can now correctly be sorted by "Resources" and "Automation Policy"
"Starting Planet" faction trait is no longer displayed in the Empire Panel for Custom Factions
Fixed an issue where Multiple levels of a planetary specialization of the same type were displayed in the specialization list if a specialization level was skipped
The beginner tutorial no longer loses functionality after the player changes game options
Debug text is no longer displayed in the Hero Ship Design screen when inspecting a hero on the Marketplace
The player can no longer access the technology screen before it becomes available in the beginner tutorial
The Virtual Dustylizer now displays which population is going to be sacrificed, like the Chain gang program does
Fixed systems failing to update Riftborn manpower infinite improvement when a quest unlocks a new version of the said improvement
Curiosity expedition is now considered as failed if the fleet is destroyed during the expedition
It is no longer possible to invade a system several times in the same turn by using the retreat option after an invasion
Fixed an issue where Advanced Report Damage Gauges were glitching when total damage done was 0
Fixed systems sending growth to themselves
Fixed random technology quest reward sometimes giving a technology that should not be available
Fixed GUI displaying incorrect information when Cravers try to change government
Fixed an issue where Planets disappeared from System View if the player clicked on System Management View and then clicked the left mouse button again
Fixed player being unable to decolonize home systems of other empires after capturing them
Fixed an issue where the Lumeris’ faction-specific Infinite Improvement, Political Theater, did not replace Public 3D Printing after being researched
Alliance victory conditions are not taken into account anymore when a player leaves an alliance
Fixed an issue where the notification of the "A Swarm of Locusts" quest displayed improper information when only one empire completed the quest
"Righteous fury" religious law now allows to go through closed borders
Fixed privateers not crossing closed borders when in auto-explore
Fixed automated ships not delivering their content when arriving (instead, waiting for the system to refresh or the end of turn)
Fixed automated ships tooltip displaying erroneous information
Fixed an issue where fighters that chased bombers drifted when their target was updating its trajectory
Fixed some saves with corrupted systems not being able to load
Fixed a situation where leech sometimes stops at end of turn
Fixed battle rewatch not working
Fixed colonization sometimes causing issues
Fixed multiplayer saves being loadable with modding tools enabled



[BALANCE]

Minor Faction quest action accessibility reduced from 75 to 50 relation points
Added Dust cost for minor faction quest action
Ocean, Jungle and Atoll Planet cost for Custom faction increased from 10 to 15
Perfect Genes cost reduced from 15 to 10 (level 1) and from 30 to 20 (level 2)
Pathfinder cost reduced from 40 to 25
Guardians cost increased from 25 to 40
Crowded Planets I & II disabled for Ship Bound factions
Social Chameleons cost reduced from 20 to 15
Increased custom faction cost for Democracy and Republic governments from 5 to 10
Reduced effect for Skillful Traders from +20% to +15% Star System Trade Value on Star System
Added "Fast" bonus to Civilians, and changed to "Very Fast" for Explorers
Added bonuses "Squadron Technicians" (+10% Health on Squadrons) & "Veteran Pilots" (+10% Damage on Squadrons) for Carriers
Balanced values for Trade Companies’ gains in Dust, Science and Luxury
Reduced XP needed to level up Trade Companies
Reduced Science gains from Trade Companies
Reduced maximum number of Trade Companies to 3 (4 with faction trait Extended Consortium")
Changed the formula for the Length modifier of Trading Company so it starts having diminishing returns once there's more than 10 Nodes in a Route
Added faction trait "Extended Consortium", costing 15 points
Reduced steepness of the nerf for Trade Companies research gain and Trade Companies level impact
Decreased from 8% to 3% XP gained from improvements built for governors
Increased XP gains of admirals from battle by x10
3 new empire improvements linked to stage to increase civilian ship movement points
Increased costs of Faction Trait "Mutual Understanding I" from 5 to 10 and "Mutual Understanding II" from 10 to 15
Reduced Lumeris Hero Senator Skill "Lucky Windfall" effect on Star Systems Trade Value from +50% to +10%
Reduced Luxury Resource "Drift Buds" effect on Star Systems Trade Value when used in a Star System Upgrade from +70% to +20%
Reduced "Solar Security Operations Base" effect on Star System Trade Value +100% to +25%
Reduced "Xhuyin Cartel" effect on Star System Trade Value +50% to +25%
Reduced "Borer's Guild Bourse" effect on Star System Trade Value +50% to +25%
Fixed luxury Resources deposits not applying their Approval bonus per Population
Reduced the Approval bonus per Population of Transvine deposits from +4 to +3
Fixed "Spoils of War" law applying its effects twice
The player will now receive resources instead of an outpost in chapter 1 of the United Empire quest if they selected the 2nd choice, if they are playing with a custom faction with Shipbound or Vines affinity
The reward for completing the final chapter of the Riftborn's questline is now functional for custom factions
Dust election actions are now tied to Dust inflation
Approval bonus from the "Destroy" option of the "Mind Matters" event is now functional
The "Church on High" Vodyani tutorial now progresses past the second step when the player selects a system as instructed
Added a Medium range to beam weapons (with a x2 cooldown between shots)
Flotilla Ranges now do the correct accuracy adjustments for beams
Evasion now has max value of 0.95 instead of minValue of -0.95
Fixed flaks bringing their DPS to feedback in the detailed view of DPS in ship overview
The Metaplot quest can no longer erase the ENFER star system to turn it into the Metaplot system
Rejuvenation Haze now increases regen ratio on Docked Fleets, not just Fleets in Hangar
Promoter of Diversity's laws counter now works
Reduced the necessary quantity of T1 Luxury Resources for Star System Upgrades
Increased the necessary quantity of T3 Luxury Resources for Star System Upgrades
Reduced over colonization penalty per system over the threshold (-15 --> -10)
Reduced Custom Faction cost of starting on a Jungle from 15 to 10
Increased XP required for hero ships to level up
Reworked hero XP computation (added passive gains to Governors and Admirals)
Renegade Master now applies its bonuses correctly
It is no longer possible for factions with the Riftborn visual affinity to find star system improvements they cannot use through curiosity exploration
Mount Zelevas (Quest United Empire, United Empire ending) can now be built
Nerfed all Kinetic weapons’ damage by 10%
Fixed Industrialist "Fortitude" law not applying its health bonus correctly
Increased Heart's Ward health bonus from 45 to 50, increased shield absorption, shield bonus from 350 to 500
Reduced Gjallarfire Damage from 22 DPS to 17 DPS
Increased Heart's Hammer from 34 DPS to 62 DPS
Increased Pirate Laser damage from 8 DPS to 13 DPS, increased Critical Chance from 5% to 10%, cost reduced from 40 Industry to 35



[AI]

The AI is now able to refresh ship designs during the turn
Added new behavior and feedback that detect diplomatic demand abuse
The AI now handles happiness in a better way to reduce the number of cases where AI collapses under its own economy
Removed transition in alliance state based on impossible predicates (demands to ally are forbidden) resulting in strange mood messages
Fixed an issue with difficulty limitation in war transitions that was stopping AI from going to war when the player had declared it
The AI now responds to diplomatic contract and no longer sometimes gets stuck calculating terms
Tweaked leecher and vineship fleet size
Tweaked Offensive Military Power Threat Threshold to reduce trespass occurrence
The AI now uses and reacts to force peace mechanic
Changed Truce negotiation Modifications - Ai should now be harder to sue for peace when it’s not trying to put an end to the war itself
Fixed issues in minor factions behavior
Fixed fighters bombers compositions and ship designs
Fixed an issue in balance contract resource amount adjustment
Fixed an issue where ship designs were not improved in some cases
Fixed several issues with trespassing notification



[MAC COMPATIBILITY]

Added several Intel cards to diplomacy hologram compatibility
Added Intel Iris 6100 to the hologram compatibility
Apply compatibility lists if -compat used on the command line


[COMPATIBILITY]

Adding Intel HD5500 to the list of cards that trigger lower-performance mode

[arke0d]

Tu ne les aurais pas en français par contre?

[the_wamburger]

Non, désolé

Les grandes lignes : l'IA gère mieux sa propre approval et ne devrait plus finir dans les limbes à force de coloniser à outrance. Elle ne considère plus les vaisseaux d'exploration comme des vaisseaux militaires enfreignant son périmètre.
Les trade companies ont été nerf pas mal, avec leur nombre max réduit et surtout des changements en place pour réduire l'exponentialité de leurs revenus.
Les héros gagnent de l'xp différemment maintenant, avec un nombre d'xp gagné de base par tour, plus en fonction de la taille de la flotte ou du système sur lequel ils sont. Ils gagnent plus pour les batailles, gagnées ou perdues.

Plus les additions : héroïne Jennifer Rach de ES1, les Fighters Bombers oeuf course, une quête liée aux pirates, la vue du menu principal des Unfallen, Sophons et Cravers, des meilleures explosions, un mouvement forcé avec ctrl+Mouse 2

[iHateWin]

Tout cela m'a l'air très bien et correspond à 2 grosses critiques des joueurs : l xp sur les héros et l'économie crquée.

A voir si ca suffi.

En tout cas ça m'a donné envie de retester tout ça

[the_wamburger]

Ben go là allez, plus que 24h avant la sortie de Divinity, faut se presser.

[LeLiquid]

Je suis tentation !

Autant j'ai retourné Endless Legend, j'ai toujours eu du mal pour Endless space..

ARF ARF !

[Aymeeeric]

Je suis tentation !

Autant j'ai retourné Endless Legend, j'ai toujours eu du mal pour Endless space..

ARF ARF !

Endless Space 2 > Endless Legend > Endless Space (si ça peut aider dans ta reflexion )

[Barbazoul v2]

Je suis tentation !

Autant j'ai retourné Endless Legend, j'ai toujours eu du mal pour Endless space..

ARF ARF !

J'étais dans ton cas, moi aussi, à ceci près qu'on ne peut même pas dire que j'aie retourné endless legends. Mais Endless Space 2 est bien au dessus des précédents, et de loin ; il y a ce "truc" qui fait que ça accroche grave.

[LeLiquid]

Endless Space 2 > Endless Legend > Endless Space (si ça peut aider dans ta reflexion )

J'étais dans ton cas, moi aussi, à ceci près qu'on ne peut même pas dire que j'aie retourné endless legends. Mais Endless Space 2 est bien au dessus des précédents, et de loin ; il y a ce "truc" qui fait que ça accroche grave.

J'ai l'impression qu'on cherche à me pousser à la consommation