Star Wars: le topic garanti sans sable !

[Augusto Giovanni]

Dans un sens c'est vrai : en mutilant Anakin lors de leur duel, Obi-Wan l'a "tué", ne laissant plus que Dark Vador.

Oui bon tu vas pas nous refaire les dialogues.

Donc ce que je t'ai dit était vrai, mais d'un certain point de vu

[AttilaLeHein]

Je suppose le fait que dans l'épisode IV, Vador est percu comme un sous-fifre de l'empire, que les Moffs prennent de haut et qui est envoyé au turbin, et que dans l'Empire contre attaque, tout le monde le craint, il semble être le seul à discuter avec l'Empereur

Heureusement que Palpatine l'avait pas mis aux commandes depuis le début quand tu vois la vitesse à laquelle il bute ses officiers, sinon d'ici l'épisode IV le Grand Moff serait l'ancien concierge de l'Étoile Noire !

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Oui bon tu vas pas nous refaire les dialogues.

[Kiy0me]

Dans un lointain futur une galaxie lointaine, très lointaine, il n'y a que la guerre...

Ça faisait longtemps qu'ils avaient pas sorti un nouveau jeu de combats de figurines à collectionner Star Wars absolument pas compatible avec les autres, chez Fantasy Flight.

[IriK]

Dans un sens c'est vrai : en mutilant Anakin lors de leur duel, Obi-Wan l'a "tué", ne laissant plus que Dark Vador.

De mon coté, j'ai jamais trop vue le combat comme la fin d'Anakin, il y a plusieurs moments, selon les interprétations, ou Anakin meurt pourrait on dire :
Lorsqu'il décide de massacré tout les tuskens ; quand il accepte de servir Sidious ; ou bien encore quand il après la mort de Padmé.

Je suppose le fait que dans l'épisode IV, Vador est percu comme un sous-fifre de l'empire, que les Moffs prennent de haut et qui est envoyé au turbin, et que dans l'Empire contre attaque, tout le monde le craint, il semble être le seul à discuter avec l'Empereur

Ouaip, pouvant s'expliquer la continuité de la réflexion de Lucas sur son histoire

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Dans un lointain futur une galaxie lointaine, très lointaine, il n'y a que la guerre...

Ça faisait longtemps qu'ils avaient pas sorti un nouveau jeu de combats de figurines à collectionner Star Wars absolument pas compatible avec les autres, chez Fantasy Flight.

Un rebelle qui pilote un TR TT Clone

[Bordeliec]

Heureusement que Palpatine l'avait pas mis aux commandes depuis le début quand tu vois la vitesse à laquelle il bute ses officiers, sinon d'ici l'épisode IV le Grand Moff serait l'ancien concierge de l'Étoile Noire !

Quand j'étais petit j'avais toujours beaucoup de peine pour tous ces méchants injustement tués par Vader.
Les pauvres ils faisaient tout ce qu'ils pouvaient, c'est quand même pas leur faute si les gentils seront les plus forts ! Quasiment condamnés d'avance alors qu'ils vont se défoncer dans leur boulot.

[Maximelene]

Ouais enfin c'était pas toujours gratuit non plus. Ozzel par exemple, qui est le seul exemple qui me vient à l'esprit, est responsable du fait que la flotte impériale soit sortie de l'hyperespace juste au-dessus de Hoth. A cause de lui, les rebelles ont été avertis et ont eu le temps de lever le bouclier planétaire, obligeant l'Empire à les attaquer au sol plutôt que de les bombarder, leur donnant par la même occasion le temps de fuir.

[Aghora]

Et Needa, ce pauvre mec qui a raté bêtement le Faucon et va faire ses excuses à Vador lui même comme un homme et se fait quand même étrangler .

[Maximelene]

Ouais, pour lui c'était pas cool, en effet.

[Cassin]

Ouais mais à côté du prend le Capitaine Needa qui est éliminé parce que Han a réussi à se poser sur la coque du Vengeur sans que personne ne s'en aperçoive, là c'est pas vraiment de sa faute ^^

(et ça doit être les deux seuls qu'il bute, en fait )



EDIT : grillé à 5 minutes près

[Mob Borane]

[Aramchek]

Quand j'étais petit j'avais toujours beaucoup de peine pour tous ces méchants injustement tués par Vader.
Les pauvres ils faisaient tout ce qu'ils pouvaient, c'est quand même pas leur faute si les gentils seront les plus forts ! Quasiment condamnés d'avance alors qu'ils vont se défoncer dans leur boulot.

Jerjerrod est à 2 doigts d'y passer aussi

[Cassin]

Bah ouais, Yoda aux commandes d'un chasseur, pourquoi pas ?

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Il ne toucherait pas les pédales

[Maximelene]

Bah ouais, Yoda aux commandes d'un chasseur, pourquoi pas ?

Ben oui, pourquoi pas ?

[Koma]

La version Revisited de l'Episode 5 est dispo : https://www.facebook.com/rotjeditdro...83873925060400

The reviews are in!!!
Plus here's a list of changes

Overall:
1 - Doing a complete colour correction.
2 - Rebuilding the sound mix with new sound FX.
3 - Re-rotoscoping all the lightsabers to fix colour (and other) errors.
4 - Re-rotoscoping all of the laser blasts for consistency.
5 - Attempting to fix spaceship/snowspeeder transparency issues.
6 - TIEs will be blue and ANH:RHD will have blue TIEs also
7 - Replacing/enhancing starfields.
8 - fixing as many garbage mattes as possible.
9 - recoloured R2's black panels to blue

Audio:
1 - fixing the issue where Luke called Wedge "Rogue 2" instead of "Rogue 3"
2 - Restoring the line "you're lucky you don't taste very good"
3 - Restoring Boba Fett's original voice
4 - Restoring the "bring my shuttle" line

Things not done:
1 - Not adding landing crafts to deploy AT-ATs.
2 - Not making the AT-AT lasers green.
3 - Not making it so the fleet jumps to lightspeed just before the credits.
4 - Not adding Mon Cal ships to the Rebel Fleet at the end.
5 - Not adding music from the prequels or music that wasn't originally in the movie.
6 - Not adding Luke's vision so it can be seen like Anakin's in ROTS.
7 - Not adding anything just because its in the Expanded Universe. The EU doesn't exist for the purposes of this edit.

Cuts and Additions:
1 - New 20th Century Fox opening
2 - New recreated opening crawl
3 - Fixed juddering starfield as camera pans as probes fly away from the belly of stardestroyer
4 - Added flames as probe enters atmosphere
5 - Replaced pinks streak with flames for when probe crashes
6 - Removed footprints in snow when probe crashes
7 - Added crater debris when probe emerges to match previous close-up shot
8 - Smoothed Taun-taun stop motion animation.
9 - Flipped shot of probe crashes when Luke see it to match the first time we see the crash
10 - Enhanced binoculars display
11 - New shot of Han on Taun-Taun when he is speaking to Luke
12 - New Wampa
13 - Flipped the Wampa's arm as it looks like he is back swiping Luke because they used the wrong arm
14 - Removed boom mic reflection in Luke's goggles
15 - Removed puppeteers’ arm (done before the blu-ray fix)
16 - New matte of rebel hangar entrance
17 - Changed Falcons turret gun in all studio set shots to match the studio model
18 - Swapped hair colour or rebels when Leia is watching Han as he enters command centre to help fix issue with flipped shot
19 - Covering Anthony Daniel's neck which is visible while Han calls over the Deck Officer.
20 - Re-edited the Wampa cave scene to closer match the original theatrical version, eliminating all SE additions (apart from one shot)
21 - Altered position of lightsaber in the snow so it is more covered to match the way it is buried in other shots
22 - Luke’s legs position changed from open to closed when hanging form ceiling of cave to match their position as he tries to break free
23 - Luke’s sabre now retracts as he runs out of cave
24 - Expanding the size of the hangar interior when seen from outside the hangar doors in the shot where R2 is using his scanner and added more troops/pilots
25 - Altered scenery slightly when Han walks away from Taun Taun
26 - Changed the scenery seen outside of the hangar before they close the doors
27 - Fixed a continuity issue where the door starts to close twice in this scene
28 - Added a "force" glow around Obi-Wan's ghost
29 - Added motion blur when Taun Taun falls
30 - Flipped 2 shots when Han cuts open Taun Taun to fix continuity issue
31 - Added lightsaber scorch march when Taun Taun is cut open
32 - Added cockpit displays to snowpseeders
33 - Added clouds to background of snowspeeder as it flies around mountain to help fix continuity issues
34 - Eliminated many of the transparent cockpit issues in snowspeeders throughout
35 - Changed colour of chest box decal from green back to the correct blue
36 - New snowspeeder as Han waves and added speeders shadow
37 - You now see 2 speeders entering hangar
38 - Bacta tank colour changed to red (its original colour was supposed to be red but the overhead lighting was too bright and it bleached out the redness of the tank while filming)
39 - New shot of probe leaving the Shield Generator
40 - Fixed the problem of the mound Han is behind during the wipe having the debris from the destroyed probe already covering it.
41 - Probe now continues to move as it fires at Chewie and actually shoots at Chewie instead of firing towards a different area
42 - The two shots we see of the probe now match, where originally the lighting completely changed between shots and had eliminated all detail in the scenery
43 - Added missing blast flashes to all guns throughout movie
44 - all laser bolts changed to match ANH:R and the PT
45 - Fixed "wobbly" panel when Leia presses the consol button
46 - Altered path of stardestroyer in first fleet shot so it doesn't look like it is just dropping down the frame
47 - Altered path of distant stardestroyers to give them a more natural movement
48 - fixed problem of TIE flying behind the stardestroyer tower causing scaling problems and replaced all TIES in this shot apart from Bomber
49 - Altered the shadow seen on the underbelly of executor in close-up shot to match other shots.
50 - Fixed bluescreen matte problems of rear side of stardestroyer tower on executor underbelly shot
51 - added missing TIE engines on all shots throughout movie
52 - Replaced the Tie fighter that heads towards Executor taking a strange path and altered position of stardestroyers
53 - repositioned stardestroyer and added new TIE bombers to close up shot of Vader looking out of window
54 - Altered matte of Executor bridge in all shots
55 - Altered background of Vader to a more correct background when he is talking to Ozzel
56 - New rebel transport hangar matte to correct scaling issues
57 - Fixed the object next to Han that get knocked while he is talking to Luke, yet appear in original position in next shot
58 - Added "Blue" engines to all stardestroyers
59 - Added atmosphere glow around Hoth in all shots it is missing
60 - Enhanced display when Vader chokes Ozzel
61 - Fixed matting issue when Vader chokes Ozzel where you can see Piette's body through the display surrounding wall
62 - Altered distant view of Hoth battlefield to fix continuity issue as original was heavily mist covered , yet not when we see the At-At's
63 - Original shield generator mattes replaced with miniature model in all shots
64 - New hangar entrance shot where trooper is viewing battlefield
65 - Enhanced displays in command centre as they prepare to fire Ion Canon
66 - Enhanced Ion Canon with new background and added troops
67 - Moved "First Catch" Imperial officers to the front window of their Star Destroyer to fix continuity error as they would not see the planet from the side window.
68 - Added more stardestroyers orbiting Hoth
69 - Ion canon blast altered from red to blue
70 - Added the destruction of one of the escort X-Wings before stardestroyer is hit with ion blast.
71 - Added the transport and remaining fighter going into lightspeed.
72 - New background to replace destroyed landscape before a shot is fired as troops rush to trench wall.
73 - New binocular shot at AT-ATs approaching
74 - Removing red AT-AT window as this is the only time we see the cockpit as red
75 - Added missing red marking to on-set Snowspeeders
76 - New shot of snowspeeders approaching battle
77 - Fixed missing or faded blue decals on pilots chest boxes
78 - Added snowspeeder flaps opening and closing to cockpit shots
79 - Removed static At-AT's when seen though the front of the cockpits and replaced them with animated ones and the correct number of AT-AT's in each shot
80 - Removed the two shots we see of the AT-ST's as they are never seen in any other part of the battle and just disappear
81 - Turret guns barrels now repel when firing instead of being static
82 - Removed the small AT-AT seen through a side view of cockpit because they are still nowhere near the AT-AT's at this point
83 - Added slight motion blur to AT-AT's to give them a more realistic movement.
84 - Replaced original shot of Vader’s hologram due to bad matting issues
85 - Added some minor visible damage to AT-AT neck as it falls
86 - Fixed missing frame from "This one goes here, that one goes there" shot.
87 - Removed the traces of the wires used to fly some of the Snowspeeders
88 - Fixed bad composite of Luke leaping as his Snowspeeder is crushed and fixed scaling of AT-AT foot in this shot
89 - Replaced some snowpeeders in background due to bad movement
90 - Removed stick that knocks over the AT-AT Luke blows up and added Luke in background.
91 - Removed blast mark that was already on turret prior to it getting hit
92 - Added cracks to speeder window as Luke crashes to match the following shots
93 - Added missing detail on crashed snowspeeder set
94 - Added missing decals on Luke’s chest plate as he is getting out of speeder
95 - Removed visible studio set walls during close up of AT-AT foot
96 - Replaced some shots of troopers retreating due to blurred blu-ray transfer
97 - New shield generator explosion to fix badly composited original
98 - Some changed backgrounds during battle for better continuity between studio and location shots
99 - When Luke slices open the AT-AT panel, his lightsaber now correctly doesn’t overlap the outer panel of the AT-AT
100 - Fixed the problem with the shorter helmet and missing lights on Vader as they enter the command centre
101 - Added wall just before the explosion as the Imperials enter the commend centre as there was originally already an entrance, so they didn't need to blow their way in
102 - New hangar miniature set added to replace original matte painting
103 - Removed Chewie going up the ramp when we already see him doing the same thing during the first wide shot
104 - Added motion blur to the falcons gun as it emerges as it was sped up originally and looked fake
105 - smoothed out jump cut as snowtroopers are blasted
106 - New shot of Falcon leaving the hangar
107 - Fixed transparent cockpit just after "punch it" line
108 - Luke now turns around just as the falcon appears instead of completely out of time
109 - New shots of transports taking off
110 - Replaced X-wings as Luke leaves Hoth due to matting/ lighting issues
111 - Stabilised and changed X-wing display showing readout of what R2 is saying to Luke
112 - New Cg falcon & TIEs in many shots to fix scaling/ compositing/ matte box issues
113 - Changed the position of stardestroyers when seen from underneath to fix continuity errors.
114 - removed the imperial officer that just walks away from window as the stardestroyers collide, while all the others are falling over and added a camera shake
115 - New larger asteroid field
116 - Added blue engine to falcon in all shots
117 - Added blast debris to large asteroid as TIEs shoot and hit it
118 - New asteroid canyon
119 - Added light reflection on tunnel wall as the falcon enters the cave
120 - Added atmosphere glow to some shots as Luke approaches Dagobah
121 - New shot of X-wing entering atmosphere
122 - fixed jump cut as the x-wing crashes through the trees
123 - Added camera shake to Luke’s cockpit as it crashes on Dagobah.
124 - New Dagobah matte using miniatures with X-wing in correct position to match the studio version and replaced stop motion bogwings with CG versions
125 - Removed the "glue" from Vader's helmet as it is placed upon his head in meditation chamber
126 - Fixed the problem with Vader having "no neck" in the helmetless scene in the meditation chamber
127 - Fixed problem of Harrison mouthing Carries lines while inside the asteroid
128 - Enhanced Yoda's mouth movements and added some blinks
129 - Removed visible head of Frank Oz
130 - Yoda now takes a bit out of the food stick
131 - Fixed the "greeblies" falling off 3PO's when he interrupts Han and Leia.
132 - Fixed the problem of the Stardestroyer tower just disappearing when hit by an asteroid
133 - New Emperor hologram so he matches closer to his ROTJ appearance than his ROTS "fatter" version
134 - Removing visible signs of plastic sheeting on floor through mist in asteroid belly
135 - Replaced the tool in Han's hand with a blaster when he shoots the Mynock.
136 - Enhancing some Executor interiors to provide a more logical layout and reduce positioning errors.
137 - Changed the position of Yoda as Luke puts him down to fix continuity issue with following shots
138 - Enhanced the colour of R2's "eye" so that is now red/blue instead of pink/purple
139 - Added extra eyes to lizard in "dark side" cave to give it a more alien look
140 - Added glow reflections from lightsabers on certain shots
141 - You now see Vader’s sabre ignite instead of being fully lit, although we hear it igniting
142 - Fixed Luke’s "bent" sabre blade
143 - Fixed jump cut of Vader's mask exploding to reveal Luke face and replaced dummies face with Marks.
144 - Added subtle facial movement to Bossk
145 - Removed visible wires from stone during levitation scene
146 - Fixed the ground that bows under Luke as he walks past Yoda saying "You want the impossible."
147 - New matte as X-wing approaches Luke
148 - Added shot of Yoda climbing up mound to fix continuity error with his position between shots
149 - Replaced Needa's shuttle with Lambda class version
150 - Removed Needa's blink as Vader's cape swipes past him after he dies.
151 - Fixed Anthony Daniels visibly moving while 3PO is turned off.
152 - Slave 1 now flies behind the falcon at a greater distance
153 - Changed certain shots while approaching Cloud City to fix continuity errors with the placement of the sun / clouds
154 - Replaced landing platform matte paintings with version that closer mattes the new buildings seen in the SE and to remove duplicate mattes
155 - Reverted added SE window at the end of the corridor, that suddenly disappears in the next shot, back to the pre-SE version
156 - Re-composited Obi-Wan's ghost so he no longer looks tiny and enhancing his glow and transparency
157 - New Cloud City mattes throughout
158 - Added missing engine glow to pod as it flies through Bespin city in the SE additional shot
159 - Fixed the open SE window behind Lando while he betrays Han and Leia so it remains open in the following shots.
160 - Added laser bolts deflecting off Vader’s hands and hitting the walls which were missing originally, yet you could see the blast marks on the walls
161 - Used the added "sparks" in junk room added for the Blu-Ray but removed the blanket colour filter badly applied to that shot
162 - Removed crew reflection on 3P0's head on conveyor belt
163 - Replaced shots of Luke’s approach to Bespin
164 - Added slight heat haze when Han is tortured
165 - Added missing lights from Vader’s chest plate during this scene
166 - Removed Anthony Daniels face visibly covered in gold foil when Chewie is reassembling him
167 - Fixed the problem with Han in carbonite wearing his ANH shirt instead of the ESB version he was frozen in
168 - Fixed the problem with the door that closes behind Luke having a raised section on the floor that r2 couldn't have possibly have gone through. This section now raises as the door slams shut
169 - Changed Boba platform mattes and added missing cockpit window as it takes off
170 - Fixed transparent shadows in the shot of Lando and company on the SE balcony and raised the balcony. Also replaced R2 in this shot with the pre SE version as the SE one was badly rotoscoped and composited
171 - Removed Vader's visible sabre blade before it ignites
172 - Fixed problem of Vader’s blade disappearing for a frame
173 - Fixed jump cut as Luke steps out of the tunnel
174 - Added Luke’s sabre switching off as he is sucked out of the window
175 - Enhanced chasm mattes to fix continuity issues
176 - Vader’s sabre can now be seen switching off
177 - Added sabre burn marks to walls
178 - New 3D enhanced vane matte
179 - Removed squib markers on walls and Stormtroopers where lasers will hit but adding them where they are missing
180 - Added smoke to r2 as he tries to open door which is there in the close up shots but not in the wide shots
181 - Added turned off lights in corridor ceilings to fix continuity issues
182 - Removed SE additional shots of Vader walking to shuttle and the shuttle approaching and docking with Executor
183 - Added fleeing ships to skyline after Lando calls for the evacuation.
184 - Fixed the piece of the Falcon Chewie knocks 3PO's head into so it doesn't break.
185 - Removed 3po from behind Chewie in cockpit when R2 had already dragged him away
186 - Added missing gun sight from one shot of Leia's gun
187 - The falcon now takes off and retreats faster and the landing gears now retract
188 - added flashing red light on platform floor to fix continuity issues
189 - Changed Luke’s hand getting severed so it doesn't look like his hand is underneath his sleeve
190 - Added lightsaber burn marks when Vader slices through the poles and removed the silver tape
191 - Altered a shot of Luke where you can see his hand underneath his shirt so it is now less visible
192 - Flipped Luke as he falls as originally it looks like his left hand is severed
193 - Fixed Vader’s wobbly helmet during the gantry scene
194 - Replaced the falcon in the shot where it swoops over the cloud so it now flies into the closest cloud before swooping around the farthest one
195 - Altered space shots of the Falcon leaving Bespin
196 - Altered shot of falcon heading towards Executor being pursued by the TIEs so that the TIEs now fire at the Falcon instead of in a different direction
197 - Added shot of Vader walking towards front bridge windows to fix continuity problem
198 - Fixed 3PO's leg in his hand so it doesn't change position between shots.
199 - changed backgrounds of Vader when he telepathically talks to Luke to fix continuity problem
200 - Added smoke to falcons pit as R2 falls down it
201 - Spinning starfield stays
202 - fixed continuity errors of Piette changing sides of the bridge.
203 - Added droids to exterior medical frigate window shot as it pans from the Falcon
204 - replaced Luke’s "fake" arm so it doesn't look like his arm is a model
205 - 2-1B can now be seen deactivating to fix continuity error
206 - Changed the visibility of the "spinning star" as seen through the window to fix continuity issues
207 - Added new ships to fleet
208 - New falcon as it undocks to fix transparency issues with original and throughout this scene to fix trajectory

[Cassin]

Ben oui, pourquoi pas ?

Bah c'est ridicule, c'est comme penser à le montrer se fighter au sabre laser en bondissant partout, personne n'y songerait

[Thufir]

Bah c'est ridicule, c'est comme penser à le montrer se fighter au sabre laser en bondissant partout, personne n'y songerait

Bof, à cause de l'ellipse temporelle entre les deux trilogies, il n'y a pas vraiment d'incohérence à voir Yoda manier le sabre.

[IriK]

Bah ouais, Yoda aux commandes d'un chasseur, pourquoi pas ?

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Il ne toucherait pas les pédales

En faite, le seule vrai problème est qu'il soit dans un chasseur jedi standard, ayant le sien.

[AttilaLeHein]

Et Needa, ce pauvre mec qui a raté bêtement le Faucon et va faire ses excuses à Vador lui même comme un homme et se fait quand même étrangler .

Le pire c'est qu'il aurait put envoyer un sous-fifre annoncer la nouvelle, mais il y va quand même lui-même, sachant qu'il a de bonnes chances de pas en revenir. Purée mec t'as loupé ta vocation, un officier comme toi aurait dut s'engager chez les rebelles.

[Mob Borane]

Oi ! Aujourd'hui est sorti l'annual de Doctor Aphra (#A1) (lien comixology)



L'OP sur la liste des comics canon a été, lui aussi, mis à jour .

[jeanba]

Bof, à cause de l'ellipse temporelle entre les deux trilogies, il n'y a pas vraiment d'incohérence à voir Yoda manier le sabre.

C'est juste que c'est moche

[Mob Borane]

Lucasfilm présente les designs de l'AT-M6 et du Dreadnought du First Order (spoiler, bien sûr).

[Kiy0me]

Le dreadnought a une sacrée classe.

Par contre, je trouve le walker assez dégueulasse.

[jeanba]

Dans un lointain futur une galaxie lointaine, très lointaine, il n'y a que la guerre...

Ça faisait longtemps qu'ils avaient pas sorti un nouveau jeu de combats de figurines à collectionner Star Wars absolument pas compatible avec les autres, chez Fantasy Flight.

ça faisait longtemps aussi qu'on avait pas vu une image de Darth Vader en train de massacrer des soldats rebelles

[AttilaLeHein]

J'aime bien leur méthode de création en "itération" : penser comment ces machines sont l'évolution de ce qui existe déjà tout en faisant que leur design ait un sens au delà du facteur cool.

Du coup le Dreadgnought est

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quasi-littéralement la version spatial d'une canonnière (une GROSSE canonnière), soit une grosse planche flottante avec plein de canons de défense au dessus et des énormes canons de bourrin en dessous !
L'Ordre Premier doit suivre l'école de pensée Warhammer 40K de la guerre : en cas de blocage, fait un truc encore plus gros avec des canons encore plus bourrins jusqu'à ce que ça passe !

Sinon je suis le seul à trouver que le Walker à

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une tête de Cylon

?

ça faisait longtemps aussi qu'on avait pas vu une image de Darth Vader en train de massacrer des soldats rebelles

Pourtant on en a eu une scène entière il y a moins d'un an...

[jeanba]

Citation Envoyé par jeanba Voir le message
ça faisait longtemps aussi qu'on avait pas vu une image de Darth Vader en train de massacrer des soldats rebelles

Pourtant on en a eu une scène entière il y a moins d'un an...

Ah bon ?

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En tout cas, ça m'étonnerait qu'il y en ait eu dans une BD récente où Darth Vader n'est encerclé que par la peur et par la mort

[AttilaLeHein]

Ah bon ?

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En tout cas, ça m'étonnerait qu'il y en ait eu dans une BD récente où Darth Vader n'est encerclé que par la peur et par la mort

Je parlais de

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Rogue One

, mais j'avais pas vu que tu ne parlais que des BD.

[jeanba]

Je parlais de

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Rogue One

, mais j'avais pas vu que tu ne parlais que des BD.

Je parle des deux :
Depuis la fameuse scène, on nous abreuve de Darth Vader qui découpe du rebelle à tout va, alors que :

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Le contexte de ROne est très spécifique car le réalisateur adopte le point de vue rebelle (c'est d'ailleurs ce qui fait l'intérêt de la scène),

et pour ma part, je suis adepte de la règle qu'un grand méchant doit savoir se faire rare pour vraiment impressionner

[Xchroumfph]

Le dreadnought a une sacrée classe.

Par contre, je trouve le walker assez dégueulasse.

Ok...

Ils vont avoir du mal à vendre des jouets avec des designs aussi dégueulasses. "Guns, More Guns, Bigger Guns". Ok les mecs, vous êtes gentils et sinon ?

Bref, à force de vouloir décliner sans trop avoir l'air les standards posés par la 1ère trilogie, on arrive à ce genre de merdes. Ce serait pas mal d'oser se passer un peu de cet héritage pour espérer aboutir à des trucs bien cools comme avoir pu le proposer KOTOR en son temps ou la seconde trilogie dans ses rares moments d'inspiration (comme le chasseur Naboo par exemple).

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je suis adepte de la règle qu'un grand méchant doit savoir se faire rare pour vraiment impressionner

Le problème, c'est qu'outre Vador, il ne reste pas vraiment de personnages vraiment iconiques et vendeurs à exploiter. Les droids sont cramés. Bobba Fett est sous-exposé. Les persos humains ont des acteurs vieux et/ou morts et les nouveaux peinent à s'imposer.

[Ezechiel]

Ok...

Ils vont avoir du mal à vendre des jouets avec des designs aussi dégueulasses. "Guns, More Guns, Bigger Guns". Ok les mecs, vous êtes gentils et sinon ?

Bref, à force de vouloir décliner sans trop avoir l'air les standards posés par la 1ère trilogie, on arrive à ce genre de merdes. Ce serait pas mal d'oser se passer un peu de cet héritage pour espérer aboutir à des trucs bien cools comme avoir pu le proposer KOTOR en son temps ou la seconde trilogie dans ses rares moments d'inspiration (comme le chasseur Naboo par exemple).

Le chasseur Naboo

[Kiy0me]

La canonnière de la République, bitches. Un de mes vaisseaux de l'univers Star Wars préférés.



D'ailleurs, j'ai toujours l'artbook avec cette illustration.